Morning!

Mornin' @dharrigan!

🙂

Is it Friday yet?

It's turning into "one of those weeks"...

Nearly. For me, it's going relatively fast. This week, I deployed new code into dev, wrote some load testing scripts (in JMeter) - results are encouraging, wrote a new utility for Arch (mkinitcpio-wireguard) and drunk a lot of coffee 🙂

Which is a win 🙂 Didn't write much Clojure, which is a fail 😞

oh, and refactored my clojure to use the sql/call as mentioned in #sql 🙂

I'm glad honeysql and next.jdbc are working out for you. I'm mostly rewriting legacy code to Clojure at the moment. But the last day did not go well. I spent half the day wrestling with Selenium tests 🤯

I'm also wracking my brain over a core.memoize issue that someone reported 🤪

I do enjoy next.jdbc and honeysql

I've been pondering this recently

and I think I know why

At work, we use a lot of Spring (Boot) and Kotlin. I do like a lot Kotlin - it's a step up from writing Java (in its current 11 form - which is nice anyway, better than 😎.

and although Spring Boot gets the job done - I've ending up as a "Spring" developer, not a programmer. A lot of the details are taken care of you by Spring

From a business point of view, that's a win - get job done faster

but from my personal pov, I'm loosing something

Spring is a lot better than it used to be!

So, getting a bit more "bare" metal with next jdbc and honeysql is very refreshing

Oh yes - agreed - I've been using spring since the v1 days

Ouch!

I had xml coming out of my ears

< 👂:skin-tone-2: > :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

indeed

Did you ever do Struts?

So, thanks for the library Sean - interacting with the db at this level is great - I know what I want the db to do, and your library helps achieve that!

yes

Struts 1

Double ouch!

I managed to avoid a lot of that somehow

indeed - at that time, it was all that was there for templating

and JSP

that was ouch too 🙂

Yeah I did a fair bit of jsp

and remote ejb home etc...

joys

corba

But I mostly managed to stay entirely backend and avoid any UI stuff

Ah yeah corba. OMG Object Management Group

The Dark Days

Clojure makes me happy. So. Much. Simple.

yes ++ totally this

bbl - the boss (i.e., our 2.5 year old) is awake

I gotta go too

Morning. Need. The. ✨ ☕ ✨

and morning!

måning

@dharrigan my first ever pro project was built on corba. “Visibroker for Java”. Fun times. Went to an interview once. Interviewer said, “what is this ‘cobra’ technology that you keep mentioning?” Recruiter had been “helpful” and spellchecked my CV :)

Corba keeps coming back around though. 10 or 12 years later, hearing somebody extoll the virtues of “thrift” for remoting and it’s separate little interface definition language :). Like flared jeans man ;)

Cobra Command 🙂

Every time I've seen a distributed tech fail it is because they try adding types and having some sort of central type registry. DCE/CORBA/SOAP

I remember when SOAP was actually simple

@otfrom we've got schema checking on both client and server side on all our REST APIs, which is pretty close to types. no central registry beyond git though

checking what comes in and what goes out on either side is just good practice. That is different from having some statically defined thing that you generate code from and a central repo to look up types

I think the only reason the web still runs (even tho it does actually have a central repo of types) is that everyone ignores it.

If TBLs semantic web ever takes off the web is doomed. 😉

I dunno I always thought Jini worked really well… so long as every client was on the JVM. The trick being to share not just types/interfaces but service proxies. Shame it never took off. The first start up I worked for in 2001 used Jini a lot to build SOA’s before SOA was a thing. @otfrom: what is the webs central repo of types?

@rickmoynihan https://schema.org/

sort of

man! that's a blast from the past - I looked at Jini yonks ago

Morning All 🙂

Morning all!

Excellent password recommendations by the BBC today /s https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/48002968

Damn! How did you guess my password?

Have you been peeking over my shoulder?

"Create a password manager that doesn't suck" is on my long list of project ideas.

https://www.passwordstore.org <-- GPG + git .. has android and ios clients

Atm I use two (for I haven't settled on one just yet) - lastpass and bitwarden

I self host bitwarden

does Bitwarden have a CLI client?

https://github.com/bitwarden/cli - yes

yes

I remember looking at pass (by the same author as the excellent wireguard)

I can't remember why I didn't pursue

I think I have to look at it again

it’s very easy to use. The android app isn’t the most polished client but it does the job

I use a yubikey + android yubi to do 2fa stuff as well

how many keys did you get?

can you use multiple keys (i.e one backup) with android yubi?

two, but you can't only use one since the secrets aren't stored on the key

if you capture the code you can

the annoying thing about that is, you need to have access to your backup key in the event of enrolling a new one

it kinda defeats the purpose if both my keys are at home and the house burns down

don't keep both at home 🙂