spacemacs (holy mode) here

Any specific reasons?

for choosing spacemacs or holy-mode ?

yes

lol, yes. both? both? both!

I was hoping to giphy that, but apparently we don't have that integration

for spacemacs - i really like the layers stuff, the default window-management is great, i'm a fan of helm, and its default dark-mode is almost perfect (i only had to make the background properly black and i was done)

for holy-mode - i'm a longtime emacs user and it was familiar

Fair enough 🙂

for emacs distros in general - i've reached the point of .emacs bankruptcy several times and i just want to pull in a distro managed by someone else... i went through emacs-live and prelude before settling on spacemacs

I was playing around with spacemacs yesterday and I really like the default colours too

https://github.com/liuchengxu/space-vim-dark this one?

that looks very much like the spacemacs dark theme @U09LZR36F

even to the point of the not-quite-black background

i've always found it a mystery why anyone would make a dark theme for an editor with a not-true-black background

low contrast was trendy for a minute there

sure, but you can make the background lighter and all mushy when you're viewing in the actual dark, or the foreground darker - why the preponderance of people choosing the former solution ? (there are almost no dark themes around with true-black backgrounds - i looked, before getting down and modifying the spacemacs-dark theme)

Emacs - because I’ve used it for 20+ years, and I don’t want to have to relearn an editor every year or two. A lot of other developers I know seem to always be changing editors, and often use multiple at anyone time.

That's only half an answer though 😉

I'm looking for the why factors

well, at this point it's the advanced productivity that's been built up with these editors.

that's why I won't leave vim, I know it very well.

Ultimately I don't think it matters which of vim/emacs you choose, you just have to learn it very well.

Yeah, vi(m) and emacs will be around forever and that was clear 20 (maybe even 30+) years ago… I’m not sure the same can be said of vscode or atom, though you’ll maybe get 5-10 years out them. Also org-mode and magit — either of those two packages alone make Emacs more than worthwhile.

I use vim because it is quite literally ubiquitous and if you take the time to learn its (very extensive) native features, you can get extremely far with a very lightweight config

with the % and f / t matchers and vim-surround, you can basically structurally edit most lisps and get pretty far with most other languages too

and with native features of Clojure and some lightweight scripting/config you can hack together REPL integration with minimal tooling

It's a bit of an opinionated workflow but I derive a lot of liberation from developing using as lightweight tooling as possible

Neovim + my own prepl based tooling plugin https://github.com/Olical/conjure 😄

I used Emacs for Clojure for several years but switched to Atom because I found Emacs' packages to be fragile (updates often broke things) and I tried several curated package groups as well as building configs from scratch. I just felt Emacs involved too much maintenance time and effort. I use vim for quick editing, esp. on remote servers, but I've never used it for core Clojure development so I can't comment on any of the Clojure integrations for it.

Undo tree is the killer package for me on emacs

And the way to get around non black backgrounds @U0524B4UW is to just have much brighter neon text haha

Paging @otfrom for backup on that one 😅

Vim has branching undo with an undo tree too, just saying :)

neon text is definitely the important thing

I do wonder about setting up a function to go from blue->black->blue based on time of day. 😉

@U79NZHC6A this worked pretty well for me: https://gist.github.com/mccraigmccraig/d9c736fef8cd974763a25ee8044f4136

@otfrom, you mean like this? https://twitter.com/bethdean/status/1158790099196268544

even the mouse neons

sooooooo preeeeeettttyyyyyy

Building your own keyboard > making your own emacs config

🙂

Pi hole?

does it help with facebook ads? they recently started slipping through my uBlock Origin lists

Not sure how I can test that. I don't have a facebook account.

If you supply me with a page, I can try...

thats the best solution! I do have one and am waiting for the GDPR process to delete an account to be validated

so far it looks it’ll take a while …

I deleted my profile a few months back. Best decision. facebook is pure evil.