Morning

I was awoken this morning at 3:30(ish) by the lovely sound of a police helicopter buzzing the local area

nice

Now what have you done? 😉

Morning

o/

unmarked helicopters 🎶

I wondered where my regular helicopter went

The first time it woke me, I assumed I was being abducted by aliens.

morning... no helicopters here... but I still woke up several times, probably due to the heat.

Did you leave the heating on?

Let’s be honest, “The Unmarked Helicopters” would be a great name for a band @lady3janepl 🙂

morning

Morning

morning

'tis only a song from xfiles

which is weird, since I never watched the series (cue "whaaaat") but managed to wear out the soundtrack cassette 🙂

\o

@thomas you know how some animals migrate to find cooler climate? Yeah, you should be doing that and coming over to the islands for health in summer XD

but.... but... I just left @lady3janepl...

That was your first mistake 😉 Only joking

Yeah that's what migration means. "But moooom, why are we flying there again, we've only just left and I like the fish here much better?!" "Keep flapping, it's tradition "

are you sure @yogidevbear ? 😉

TBH, I have very mixed feelings with the current political landscape and the heavily polarised public opinion around "B" 😞

The grass may very well be greener where you are right now 🤷

That said, my lawn does literally look pretty green

I don't have a lawn... so can't compare I'm 'fraid.

no lawn? whereabouts are you?

me too 😞 #flatLife

there's only one solution...

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3c/97/14/z21593660Q,Rzezucha-jest-doskonala-ozdoba-wielkanocnego-stolu.jpg

grow your own, in your flat

that way, the grass (ok, watercress) is always greener on your side.

my sister-in-law covered her back yard in astroturf

for the low maintainance solution

drastic. is minigolf included?

we grow hydroponic greens in the hallway

well, my wife does. I’m clumsy and sometimes over or under water things and kill them

coriander is picky

good morning

morning

@ben.hammond We have a tiny garden at the front, but no lawn and at the back it is tiled. So hence no lawn.

We have a small patch of astroturf under the trampoline in the back garden. Best investement ever (well, in that particular context anyway)

@alex.lynham maybe you can automate the watering with an arduino or something like that.

yeah, you can get pretty complicated but then it’s more stuff to maintain

we have timers on the lights and that’s kind of enough to take the main hassle out

Does anyone have any experience with the new AWS SFTP -> S3 Service?

It seems__ to be VERY expensive, and I am trying to figure out why anyone would use it...

@maleghast No I hadn’t seen it… but it looks pretty cool… I was surprised to see it billed per hour… can you dynamically spawn them to handle requests?

@maleghast: I’d imagine the main reason to use it is that sftp uses public key crypto; so you can leverage your ops key management infrastructure; without having to use IAM in addition to it. I’d imagine things like ssh forward agent would probably work with this, allowing you to read and write files backed on S3 in various operational scenarios. Though I have no idea if this is really the case… just taking a guess.

Also it’s probably a way for amazon to hoover up users who are running sftp servers; without putting any burden on their clients… i.e. you could seamlessly migrate to this with minimal client changes

oh just seen this is mentioned on their diagram

mainly looks to be an SFTP front end to s3

@maleghast we're using it - it's relatively expensive, but it's trivial to configure and zero-cost to maintain, stuff always ends up on S3 and i can give the user-admin away to someone in customer-support so no need for dev/ops support

yeah - FWIW I love SFTP — it’s pretty easy to manage and deploy informally if you’re using ssh already… however not having to patch your server and worry about unix style permissioning, groups, etc would be nice… Not that IAM permissions are easier, though… lol.

but if it’s wrapped up — that would be great for some use cases

and having backed onto infinite s3 storage; means no need to worry about managing volumes etc

IAM permissions and policies are kinda mind-numbing - but very flexible, and only need setting up once

yeah definitely

SFTP itself is pretty easy, but authorized_keys management, permissions, and patching i'm very happy to swerve

we just have a single AWS Transfer instance, with many users each with their own S3 upload directory on the backing S3 bucket - it works pretty nicely

yeah sftp is great if it’s for just a few users and you have the box & accounts there anyway… but if you’re managing it for non unix users it’s a pain… and you need to be careful you lock the accounts to deny unix login etc… so I’d totally consider this.

also the fact you can then also easily get SNS notifications etc from SFTP clients opens up new options

OK, thanks chaps - you've persuaded me that the cost is worth it for the zero-conf / hands-free aspect 🙂

At the old place I believe a team was using that for wrangling with some legacy systems. Kind of what ric and craig described in terms of painful setup and cost but back of the envelope dev time saved more than made up for it

I would recommend Terraform (or Ansible) for AWS configuration