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2019-05-09
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dharrigan08:05:00

omg, you can now use slack in uk english

jasonbell14:05:17

Wiley have just commissioned the second edition of Machine Learning: Hands on for Developers and Technical Professionals. Which is looking like an 80% rewrite than just a bunch of changes here and there.

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jasonbell14:05:52

Thank you kindly

jasonbell15:05:11

Iā€™m googling that @thomas because you could be saying anything to me! šŸ™‚

thomas15:05:23

I could indeed...

thomas15:05:23

mind you... I only know what it means in Dutch... no idea if it is a swear word in any other language.

jasonbell15:05:12

I think you were safe this time.

agile_geek16:05:57

@otfrom only the Welsh can cwtch

otfrom17:05:56

can you be new Welsh the way people can be new Scots?

maleghast17:05:14

You can for my money, but some people may not agree

agile_geek17:05:55

I would think so

jasonbell17:05:46

I think the Welsh bank their spare letters in railway station names hence Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

dominicm17:05:47

Welsh just means foreigner anyway :)

dominicm17:05:10

So I think you can be New Welsh more easily

agile_geek17:05:29

That's why we're really Cymry

dominicm17:05:05

What does that mean exactly? Because the original name for the Welsh is the British. Which makes sense.

dominicm17:05:03

> probably from ancient combrox "compatriot," from British Celtic *kom-brogos,

dominicm17:05:25

I don't entirely follow the etymology. I would guess that it's a name given by the Celtic British residing in England?

agile_geek17:05:11

Well Welsh is the Germanic rooted word for the original Celtic people forced to flee to the west but the invasion of the Angles and Saxons

agile_geek17:05:39

So the original Welsh were Romano British

dominicm17:05:51

Or maybe the Scottish, as I think I vaguely remember some kind of relationship there post-roman

agile_geek17:05:40

But they have the own words to describe themselves in thier own language "Cymry"

agile_geek17:05:05

The Scots are Irish invaders

agile_geek17:05:20

The Picts were their before them

dominicm17:05:45

Yeah, I meant the residents of Northumbria really :)

agile_geek17:05:54

Although they all integrated (some what violently)

dominicm17:05:13

Who integrated violently?

agile_geek17:05:24

The Scots and Picts

dominicm17:05:54

Haven't covered that too much yet, mostly the picts are a bit of a mystery as far as I know :)

dominicm17:05:24

I do find it funny that the Scottish are Irish, the Irish are Welsh, and the Welsh are British

agile_geek17:05:17

My favourite joke about that is the Irish are just Welsh who could swim!

agile_geek17:05:54

The Cornish, Welsh and Breton's are all closely related

agile_geek17:05:17

Languages share a common root

dominicm17:05:10

I wonder why we don't see more remnants of Celtic in France outside of Brittany

agile_geek17:05:44

I guess the Gauls bullied them into a corner. A bit like the what happened in Britain

dominicm17:05:41

I think Brittany is because of fleeing the country

agile_geek17:05:04

I think you may be right. But I guess the rise of Charlemagne probably stopped any ideas they may have had of expansion.

seancorfield17:05:58

(I just read a bunch of this History Channel exchange out loud to my wife, who is pretty much falling down on the floor laughing!)

dominicm18:05:53

I only recently learned any history of my country :) it's kinda exciting that I could hold a conversation like that and follow it.

dominicm18:05:03

Although Charlemagne is outside my domain :)

agile_geek18:05:18

@seancorfield what, because it's inaccurate or because it's History Channel in a Clojure Channel?

seancorfield18:05:45

The latter šŸ™‚

agile_geek18:05:35

@dominicm I'm just glad @otfrom hasn't told me how wrong I am yet!

dominicm18:05:50

Everything you said aligns with what I know!

dominicm18:05:45

The interesting stuff I've been picking up is that the anglosaxons didn't invade us

otfrom19:05:08

@agile_geek you are right as far as it goes. I'm enjoying living in an Irish colony. When they came over they beheaded the existing Pictish king and held a party with his head at the foot of the new Scottish/Irish king

otfrom19:05:45

Really you just have to remember that the water (sea and rivers) were easy to travel on and the land was just about impassible. So think of "countries": organising around water rather than around land

thomas19:05:56

I once heard that lowland Scots is very similar to some Dutch dialects/Frisian and that people around the North sea could talk to each other relatively easily.