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jasonbell09:01:06

<<is still hurt he got no love from @jasonbell for his Tina/David/Chris references>> @otfrom I did miss them as my headspace was in manifold streams and promises šŸ™‚

jasonbell09:01:32

But if itā€™s Tina adoration youā€™re after then Iā€™d watch BBC4 this eveningā€¦..

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maleghast09:01:24

Morning All šŸ™‚

maleghast10:01:50

I wrote some code already this morning - Hello productivity!

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mccraigmccraig11:01:42

huh, writing code - i remember that fondly @maleghast

otfrom11:01:31

@mccraigmccraig ah, the CTO's life?

mccraigmccraig11:01:09

it's snuck up on me in the last couple of months @otfrom - i've gotten almost zero code written, apart from a couple of hotfixes, and spent most of my time on customer stuff and burning ops issues

otfrom11:01:38

what about sales, HR, tax, and other admin?

mccraigmccraig11:01:06

thankfully we hired a COO to do that stuff šŸŒˆ

3Jane11:01:18

I was thinking your CEO was going easy on you šŸ˜›

mccraigmccraig11:01:28

(apart from sales which our CEO leads)

mccraigmccraig11:01:44

some of those ops issues have been magnesium-flare level burning @lady3janepl šŸ˜¬

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otfrom11:01:25

ah, magnesium, have you ever seen the videos of burning a NeXt cube?

thomas11:01:23

blasphemy!!!!

3Jane11:01:29

ā€¦.itā€™s hypnotic

practicalli-johnny11:01:48

anyone know of a good front-end web developer (html/css/javascript or clojurescript) than can build an animated company website (animations along the lines of this website https://crypton.trading/). We have graphics, just need to turn it into a website (fairly quickly)

dominicm11:01:49

I would love to know how that site is done.

practicalli-johnny11:01:38

Lots of lovely JavaScript I assume... I should check to see how big the file is, but it loads pretty snappy

practicalli-johnny11:01:24

The people that wrote the crypton.trading site are https://www.cssdesignawards.com/sites/crypton-trading/32657/, but no info on how its done specifically

thomas11:01:38

that is a very clever site... and I assume that it includes lots of CSS as well

practicalli-johnny12:01:20

Yes, CSS transformations are very powerful these days. You can also do lots of great stuff with Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG).

3Jane12:01:22

svg is amazing, but itā€™s reportedly less efficient than canvas

3Jane12:01:54

(which makes me sad. I so want easy scaling for different screen sizes)

3Jane12:01:31

but the fact that we can do it now and not have to worry about IE is pure win šŸ˜„

3Jane12:01:51

( pun not intended, very sorry )

rickmoynihan12:01:21

meh ā€” itā€™s probably adobe after effects

rickmoynihan12:01:14

I used to work at an agency with some really good interactive/animation folk and front enders, had been through the whole director/flash thing etcā€¦ My understanding was that adobe shaped current CSS/animation standards such that they suited their animation toolingā€¦ and effectively required it for anything complex.

3Jane12:01:43

interesting

3Jane12:01:52

after effects is programmable in javascript, was that why?

rickmoynihan12:01:51

I have no idea how it all worksā€¦ I know they have various export processes such that if you prep assets in a certain way you can add hooks in to trigger animations etcā€¦ It wouldnā€™t surprise me if there were tools that did the common stuff like this directly for youā€¦. but I suspect that library lets animators effectively throw assets over the wall for devs to hook into scroll events etcā€¦

rickmoynihan12:01:02

Our designer knows about a lot of this stuffā€¦ heā€™s been through the adobe director mill etcā€¦ though he tends to avoid doing it if he can; simply because of the time and money cost.

rickmoynihan14:01:13

Iā€™d be very interested in your comments on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjbcayvTcKQ TL;DR: It outlines a systemic approach to property based (integration) testing.

alexlynham14:01:34

will need to give it a watch

Conor14:01:45

My comment is that I would like a transcript rather than having to watch a 45 minute video

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broquaint14:01:32

YouTube sometimes has transcripts FWIW (click on the ā€œMore actionsā€ ellipsis icon and chose ā€œOpen transcriptā€). It has in this case too (FSVO transcript).

Conor15:01:54

generates a better than humans at a put 5:03 generation right this is not minus 5:06 infinity minus 1 0 null plus Q a kind of 5:10 inputs but the entire range the the

Conor15:01:03

Not particularly useful, sadly

alexlynham14:01:21

watch it at 1.5x speed

alexlynham14:01:31

most speakers waffle to some extent

3Jane14:01:54

itā€™s the ability to reread and search-jump (or quick read-scan) to a specific place that makes transcripts more valuable to me

thomas14:01:22

I tend to watch them at 1.25 or 1.5 speed depending on the speaker, that said having a transcript is very useful as well of course

Conor15:01:43

People are too slow, I read a lot faster than people talk

Conor15:01:16

Protip if you ever work at the BBC: read the transcript of the mandatory training videos to get them finished quickly #lifehacks

mccraigmccraig15:01:36

video is rubbish as a format for delivering information

mccraigmccraig15:01:40

it forces linear consumption and forbids skimming and other non-linear consumption strategies

flefik15:01:53

i watch most videos/films/tv-series at 1.75x. itā€™s about as much as I can manage without it getting uncomfortable

flefik15:01:58

oh, so much for reading the rest of the convo .. ppl have already talked about this ā€¦ i will go hide in my cave now

3Jane15:01:42

donā€™t hide, an honest +1 is always welcome šŸ™‚

flefik15:01:07

(thereā€™s an option to speed up video on youtube, if you didnt know)

3Jane15:01:00

Delivering information, maybe. Learning, rubbish (because non-linear consumption strategies are how you refresh, and therefore improve your recall.)

alexlynham15:01:45

I think most of my tech video consumption is about removing the barrier of 'this thing is weird and I don't get it' so I can then find some docs and, well, go and get it

thomas15:01:55

I used the read the TV reviews in the paper years ago... it would 5 minutes max and I could talk about all the interesting programs that were on the evening before.

3Jane15:01:56

tech conferences: a lot of people going šŸ’”

thomas15:01:04

great time saver

maleghast15:01:08

It's a very useful tool for teaching entirely practical tasks, like how to change the inner tube in a bicycle tyre.

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mccraigmccraig15:01:27

good point for when the task has a difficult-to-describe 3d manipulation component - much less so for when it's how to setup your EKS cluster

maleghast15:01:28

(as long as the video-maker does a good job and goes slow enough etc.)

thomas15:01:55

nowadays if you want to learn something new look it up on youtube first.

3Jane15:01:31

marie kondo how to fold a shirt

thomas15:01:09

seeee.... I heard about that one... haven't seen it.

3Jane16:01:53

you donā€™t have to look up marie kondo specifically, but look up the japanese method to fold a t shirt

3Jane16:01:59

and your life will be forever changed.

jasonbell16:01:15

<<most speakers waffle to some extent>> Oh is that right @alex.lynham;)

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maleghast16:01:26

When we are not falling off the stage, that is...

jasonbell16:01:40

Hey that whole falling thing is your gig, not mine šŸ™‚

alexlynham17:01:10

okay, but you can fold a shirt, or you can roll it up šŸ¤Æ and it's just as neat & way quicker

alexlynham17:01:20

(too much time doing band merch)

mccraigmccraig17:01:16

rolling FTW @alex.lynham - you get better packing and better visibility

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mccraigmccraig17:01:34

i haven't tried it yet, because i've only just thought of it, but it occurs to me that rolling and storing end-down might be even better in a high-density drawer

jasonbell17:01:47

Iā€™m struggling with the marie kondo attitude to books, Iā€™ve got thirty books on dataā€¦.. and the rest, well thereā€™s loads of them. Theyā€™re not going anywhere.

dominicm17:01:50

My books are here to stay

dominicm17:01:58

They look nice on the shelves, to me

seancorfield18:01:03

She's written four books. Should we get rid of those too? šŸ™‚

jasonbell18:01:45

@seancorfield only if you have 34 booksā€¦.

yogidevbear19:01:42

First episode of Discovery season two is available on Netflix. To watch one episode a week as they come out or to binge watch them in one sitting later? :thinking_face:

3Jane19:01:27

I strongly suspect when she talked about books she wasnā€™t talking to knowledge workers

3Jane19:01:03

Plus, after moving several times already with ~30 bags worth of books, you know what - sheā€™s got a point.

dominicm19:01:22

Most of mine are fiction

3Jane19:01:36

Most of mine are not

3Jane19:01:04

(Personal research library. Iā€™m in the process of donating stuff either to the relevant uni library or to people who are still working on the subject.)

3Jane19:01:32

As I look on my kindle use however (thatā€™s where fiction is), I have a ton of things I read once and a number of books that I reread regularly

bronsa19:01:25

do you have an index of the books you have? anything interesting I could borrow? :)

3Jane19:01:16

Oboy :D thatā€™s gonna be a long list. -> PM

3Jane19:01:45

And for practical stuff thereā€™s this attitude of, donā€™t read it if youā€™re not going to use it instantly, otherwise you get into lifehacking/cooking/whatever ā€œpornā€.

3Jane19:01:27

So... Iā€™m not saying live only with 20 books, but large personal libraries could be often thinned significantly without perceivable impact.

seancorfield20:01:18

I can't remember the last time I bought a physical book... I have hundreds of technical books in DropBox and OneDrive (and, hence, on my laptop, phone, and desktop).