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mccraigmccraig09:11:34

are you expecting any similar messages from guido re python @jasonbell?

jasonbell09:11:42

Non whatsoever! 🙂

jasonbell09:11:18

I got boo’d the last time 🙂

jasonbell09:11:26

“All I said was I though that Python wasn’t fit for purpose at scale, I didn’t expect some form of Spanish Inquisition”

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guy10:11:06

I can see why they would boo you, it’s a statement that would bring out the fan boys no?

jasonbell10:11:36

I then upset every DBA in the room when I suggested using only in memory databases and who needs SQL when maps of data is fine 🙂

mccraigmccraig10:11:52

i'm still waiting for our shiny future where all RAM is NVRAM and the artificial in-memory / on-filesystem distinction disappears forever

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thomas10:11:24

just use a single level storage machine like an AS/400 and all those problems disappear.

thomas10:11:18

famous last words...

mccraigmccraig10:11:05

that's not really single-level storage is it @thomas - but a vm-like abstraction which appears that way?

thomas11:11:24

true... from a program perspective there isn't any difference whether it is stored in RAM or a disk. But one could argue that is (HW) implementation specific.

mccraigmccraig11:11:22

depends on the program - e.g. if you are implementing a db and you know that your indexes are not really all RAM-resident then you will still need to make some effort to make sure that things which are likely to be accessed together are stored together, whereas if you know that all your RAM is really NVRAM then you can forget about that

rickmoynihan14:11:34

If you’re really pursuing performance though you can’t be oblivious to L1/L2/L3 caches either - I’m guessing they still exist on AS/400s 🙂

rickmoynihan14:11:27

Unless of course this is the future we’re going to get 🙂: http://erikdemaine.org/papers/BRICS2002/paper.pdf

rickmoynihan14:11:59

Which seems like a fascinating area of research

jasonbell10:11:45

@guy It woke them up.

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guy10:11:26

hah! I bet 😄

alexlynham10:11:46

I wish I had seen that

jasonbell10:11:23

Sadly @alex.lynham it won’t have the same effect on Monday

thomas10:11:54

no, I'll be there to make sure there will be a 'different' reaction 😉

jasonbell10:11:54

If @thomas strips down to his underpants during my talk I will complain to the authorities.

thomas10:11:25

who says I am wearing underpants during your talk?

thomas10:11:36

so... would that be called 'Commando Heckling'? Or something like that...

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jasonbell10:11:09

Don’t ask me to name your lifestyle choices, that’s on you sir.

thomas10:11:28

just asking for a friend...

3Jane10:11:13

...and that’s how they do it in Amsterdam!

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rickmoynihan14:11:34

If you’re really pursuing performance though you can’t be oblivious to L1/L2/L3 caches either - I’m guessing they still exist on AS/400s 🙂