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the UK is a good example of how to put together a nation of 4 nations by accident and some wars
and some marriages.
@U05390U2P are any of the current nations in the UK through marriage? Not sure about Wales, but Scotland is in b/c of the country going bankrupt and England negotiating well. Bits of Ulster are in b/c of war.
Wales might be the only one although I think having conquered it the Normans did marry into the local tribes.
Surely Scotland can be traced in part to shared monarchy? James I and VI?
Altho I agree about the act of union
Scotland sort of moves in and out, it is only after the big bankruptcy that they are properly in the UK rather than just by accident
Imagine passing a driver’s licence theory test and that’s basically it, a multi-choice with a short booklet that you have to learn by heart.
Some of the stuff they have you learn is very reasonable; basics of the legal system, how tax works, blah blah. Some are a bit absurd. Among other things, there’s a giant list of a crapton of things that British people invented (included: the internet) and famous sports people.
Thanks to hundreds of years of oppression, I can live here and vote in all the elections
And the Romans thing reminds me of an extreme case of that tendency that I read in a book about experimental archaeology:
The author was of the strong opinion that Romans did not build roads in Britain, they merely improved them.
(Original “roads” being foot tracks laid across swamps and such by the indigenous population.)
Well there's a big difference between local tracks and paved roads that could take heavy cart traffic for hundreds of miles so I'll give the Romans that.
oh definitely, to me this was a real funny attempt of a national pride to one-up Romans 🙂
Although they appropriated a lot of engineering knowledge from the Etruscans
Some. Interestingly most of the 'Romans' in the British isles were not from Italy (except the Patrician class officers). For example, most of Hadrian's Wall was manned by Syrian and Spanish auxiliaries.
Not really
Maybe in the late empire
part of the plan was to have troops from somewhere else to keep the locals in line, so troops got sent away from where they were born.
oh they 'fraternised' a fair bit. Often had a wife in Britain and sometimes one at home but they were serving for 25 years before they got the option of land and citizenship either back home or in the country of their posting.
and of course Thatcher took that lesson in the latter bits of the miners' strike, but anyway
@otfrom it's also what the Chinese govt did when suppressing the unrest around Tianmen
they moved regiments around the country so they would speak a different dialect of Madarin
yes, I remember reading that @alex.lynham
apparently a lot of accounts got lost but in cities outside Beijing (e.g. Xi'an) there was also unrest and a similar strategy was used
it's just there were no foreign journalists to document/film it