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otfrom07:07:16

@lady3janepl @alex.lynham dumb old me doesn't see the good article link you are discussing

agile_geek07:07:33

You’re not dumb…

otfrom07:07:01

I like to think that my super power is knowing where my limits are. 🙂

agile_geek09:07:43

Don’t thank me too quickly….I didn’t say anything about you being old! 😉

agile_geek09:07:32

I also have that super power

guy08:07:03

morning!

jasonbell08:07:40

Good morning

maleghast09:07:30

Hello everyone 🙂

hyankov09:07:03

Morning everyone! Lovely day for Clojure dojo in the northern part of the island 😀 Thanks @otfrom for organizing it!

otfrom09:07:26

What? I did nothing

otfrom09:07:51

Can't blame me. No one saw anything

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hyankov09:07:09

I was pretty sure I saw your name somewhere mentioned as organizer. Excuse me if I’m mistaken

otfrom09:07:33

I think my old blog post is being used as a template

agile_geek09:07:52

His name (and picture) sneak into the most unlikely places!

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otfrom09:07:56

And I want to go to the next one, but I'm in my way to London today

otfrom09:07:15

Going to London?

agile_geek09:07:38

No your picture making into Clojure talks

otfrom09:07:21

I think that in joke confuses and excludes newbies now. I don't mind it but it doesn't feel welcoming any more.

agile_geek09:07:22

I know… I think we sort of decided that a couple of years ago. Doesn’t stop me finding it funny tho!

otfrom09:07:33

Yeah, but you always laugh at my stupid face. 😘

otfrom13:07:19

see? again with the laughing

hyankov09:07:34

Anyway, will I get to meet in person someone from the channel?

otfrom09:07:37

Wow lanyrd

otfrom09:07:54

I'm not sure

agile_geek09:07:12

@hyankov see if you can get to a Clojure eXchange one year and you’ll meet loads of us!

jasonbell10:07:40

Better write my outline.....

hyankov10:07:12

I will definitely do my best this year!

otfrom09:07:21

I think that in joke confuses and excludes newbies now. I don't mind it but it doesn't feel welcoming any more.

guy09:07:17

i think i saw it when i first started clojure and was confused 😂

guy09:07:29

that was like 5 years ago loool

guy09:07:26

but at least it was memorable 😄

agile_geek09:07:31

It made more sense when most ppl in London had been to a Dojo hosted by @otfrom

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dominicm09:07:28

I had the opposite experience, I was confused initially, and then it felt like I was being brought "in" on a joke. I actually felt more like part of the community in response to seeing @otfrom's face in slides.

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agile_geek10:07:04

@otfrom As a Yorkshireman with an American accent apparently you need to ‘keep a low profile’ while you’re in London in case an irate Brit decides to blame you for the policies of ‘the orange one’ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/10/us-embassy-trump-americans-london-warning

mccraigmccraig10:07:40

but what kinda idiot would not exercise caution "if unexpectedly in the vicinity of large gatherings that may become violent" ?

3Jane10:07:12

An orange one?

jasonbell10:07:46

It's national brick throwing day over here tomorrow.

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mccraigmccraig10:07:04

i love some of the names i've seen @maleghast calling the orange one - "darth cheeto", "the fanta menace" 🙂

mccraigmccraig10:07:32

you mean national brick throwing day falls on the same day as national pish-balloon throwing day this year @jasonbell ?

otfrom11:07:23

Nice avatar jade

otfrom11:07:29

One of the papers here is doing say no to trmp A3 posters

3Jane11:07:05

where does Jade come from?

3Jane11:07:20

(as in origin of nickname, not geographical of the person)

otfrom11:07:33

Autocarrot

agile_geek12:07:57

Does that make me an ‘autocarrot’? Been called carrot top before but never that!

otfrom13:07:19

@agile_geek yes, yes it does

maleghast11:07:44

@mccraigmccraig *takes bow* I have to tell you that I think the best one that I have heard is my wife's creation:

Donnie Small Gloves

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maleghast11:07:28

(I have made a solemn vow not to use 45's name while he is in office, on the internet)

jasonbell11:07:15

@lady3janepl Most people call me Jase, @agile_geek autocorrect calls me Jade.

jasonbell11:07:32

At ClojureX I had people calling me Jade......

3Jane11:07:43

Well, it’s stuck

3Jane11:07:53

If it helps, Jade always makes me think of Beyond Good and Evil 🙂

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danm13:07:27

That reminds me, the new one looks interesting. I should actually give the original a go...

jasonbell12:07:41

And me. 😉

practicalli-john13:07:09

Hello all, I am looking for speakers for the London Clojurians meetup for September, October and November. Lightning talks, experience reports, live coding, remote presenters, tool use, anything related to Clojure and functional programming would be great to hear about. Personally I would love to hear about Clojure and Kafka experiences. We have 1,115 members now, so it would be great to have some regular talk nights up until the Conference in December. We also have some variety of locations, so it won't be just SkillsMatter. Send me a direct message on Slack if you are interested.

practicalli-john13:07:43

If we don't get volunteers, I may just have to talk about how wonderful Spacemacs is for three months

alexlynham13:07:56

I assume there’s more experienced folk than me in the cljs/serverless world but could potentially do something around that depending on the date

alexlynham13:07:28

re: kafka and clj I’ve done some but production wise that’s @otfrom and @carr0t’s specialist subject ^_^

alexlynham13:07:40

dan’s talk at kafka summit was v good

agile_geek13:07:03

@alex.lynham you’d be surprised. Lots of ppl want to hear your experiences. The audience’s experience is always mixed.

alexlynham13:07:09

‘this weird trick makes a serverless webapp into thinking it was a regular figwheel project’

alexlynham13:07:24

(the weird trick is read the figwheel docs very closely)

otfrom13:07:17

that is often the solution

otfrom13:07:28

passing through toon now and waving at @agile_geek 👋

agile_geek13:07:51

I’m in Leeds so not sure who you’re waving at?

otfrom14:07:22

clearly I'm waving at the platonic idea of you

otfrom13:07:55

it has been a while since I've done any kafka. @jasonbell is the one to ask there really

otfrom13:07:18

I think I've been dragooned into talking, was thinking about abusing core.async for ETL

practicalli-john13:07:58

@jasonbell will be making a star appearance at the ClojureX conference, but don't tell anybody, it's a secret

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jasonbell13:07:39

Oh that Jason Bell.... 🙂

alexlynham13:07:01

okay, well def ask @carr0t as well - like I say, his kafka conf talk was ace

alexlynham13:07:13

(sorry for dropping you in it dude 🙂 )

jasonbell13:07:17

Happy to do another Kafka at ClojureX

jasonbell13:07:36

I could even live code this time........ no I won't 🙂

jasonbell13:07:11

The original plan was to do a thing on self training AI with DL4J and Core.async.

jasonbell13:07:26

A rework from the Strata talk on Kafka/DL4J

practicalli-john13:07:52

@jasonbell don't think we have tied you to either topic yet... so let us know what you are going to enjoy speaking about the most at the conference.

jasonbell13:07:35

@otfrom if you're doing core.async -> ETL then I'm happy to do Kafka/DL4J in Clojure.

danm13:07:54

Haha, no worries. Will have to see what I'm up to around then 😉

danm13:07:26

Would need to rejig the talk to be less Kafka and more Clojure 🙂

otfrom13:07:05

@jasonbell I'm not talking at clojurex. This is just a ldnclj meetup in Sept

alexlynham15:07:23

some bits of solidity are quite nice (tagging pure vs impure functions, view functions etc) but some bits really are a Dockerfile level dog

alexlynham15:07:34

code reuse via contracts-as-objects in an object hierarchy is just… no

alexlynham15:07:59

why not just export blocks a la node requires?

alexlynham15:07:18

actually I’ll do a sh-- er, feedback sandwich and say that aside from a few globals, the if in function it’s memory/ if outside fn block it’ll be on the chain isn’t a bad pattern (given what there is to work with)

alexlynham15:07:17

given that the blockchain is immutable though, the way that a side effect is basically an array operation feels…. uhm, casual

jasonbell16:07:11

@alex.lynham sh-- sandwich.... the two word review of that Spinal Tap album?

alexlynham17:07:37

haha yeah, got it in 1!

jasonbell17:07:04

Have you seen Mighty Wind?

alexlynham17:07:57

is that the folk band one he did relatively recently?

alexlynham17:07:19

(also did you know he’s a hereditary peer?)

maleghast18:07:49

cljConj 2018 - I'm gonna be there! 🙂

jasonbell18:07:51

@alex.lynham Yeah it's brilliant

alexlynham19:07:26

will have to check it out

maleghast19:07:47

@alex.lynham - Will you be at ClojureX..?

alexlynham19:07:15

might have to do that

alexlynham19:07:08

I take it you will then?

maleghast09:07:02

Yes, straight from the airport it looks like! I was asking 'cos I will do my best to bring back photos and notes and thoughts from the Conj and would be happy to give unofficially after-action reports to you and anyone else who's interested...

maleghast09:07:39

(Sorry I missed your response last night / this morning)

danm09:07:40

Deff interested 🙂

alexlynham11:07:28

yeah 100% that would be ace 🙂 @carr0t are you at clojurex too then?

danm11:07:18

No, I was misunderstanding. Thought @maleghast was offering to put notes about ClojureX on here

maleghast11:07:16

Yeah, I will be at ClojureX in person and would be happy to pass on info from the Conj to people face-to-face

danm11:07:35

Sadly I don’t think I can convince work to send me to another conf so soon after Kafka, XConf, and then a week and a bit of hols ;)

alexlynham15:07:56

yeah I'll have to pay for my ticket, but I need to start being more active in the clojure community in meatspace

alexlynham15:07:11

can't just sit in Manchester being a keyboard warrior 🙂

danm16:07:15

Works for me 😉 I don't have the money to go out to these things if the company isn't paying 😞

alexlynham08:07:06

yeah me either, it's quite a bit of cash... but I suppose it's a tax write-off if you get an invoice

yogidevbear20:07:43

What a game! Bit gutted that England are out now, but Croatia really made them work for it

jasonbell21:07:05

@alex.lynham The Folksmen (from Mighty Wind) used to come out and support Spinal Tap, get bottled and have god knows what thrown at them. They'd go off, get changed and them come on as Spinal Tap and no one ever noticed.

alexlynham21:07:09

that’s brilliant