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thomas08:12:29

moin moin morning ❄️

guy08:12:04

morning!

otfrom08:12:33

morning from a frosty Dundee

yogidevbear09:12:50

Morning from a snowing Horsham

yogidevbear09:12:14

Let's hope the trains are still running in a few hours so that I can make it back home from Londontown

yogidevbear09:12:22

How is everyone doing this morning?

Rachel Westmacott09:12:38

my arms hurt from dragging logs around, other than that I’m well

Rachel Westmacott09:12:48

morning everyone!

yogidevbear09:12:28

@peterwestmacott training for the Scottish log throw? (I'm sure it has a different official name)

yogidevbear09:12:46

Best way for fight off this cold

Rachel Westmacott09:12:48

a friend of mine had more trees than he needed

Rachel Westmacott09:12:23

not sure if it was using a machete to hack the branches up, or dragging the big bits around that did it, but I am sore today.

yogidevbear09:12:59

I always thought that taking up lumberjacking was probably the best type of gym membership you could ever need 😆

guy10:12:45

wow what a great fire :thumbsup:

maleghast11:12:40

Morning All, from a very frosty Inversnaid, where we are on day two of our water source being frozen…

thomas12:12:51

@maleghast :thinking_face: that doesn't sound good....

thomas12:12:10

do have to melt snow in order to have a cuppa?

maleghast12:12:22

@thomas - Luckily no - we have a couple of streams that are flowing 🙂

thomas12:12:49

and do you get your drinking water from that?

maleghast12:12:52

Yes, in that at a push we can boil the stream water to sterilise it. We have a stash of bottled water for such eventualities however that we are using for now, as it should thaw today - the temperature has gone right up.

maleghast12:12:21

In fact I am going to go and check the system in about an hour, so that I know whether to buy more bottled water in town when I go for the kids. 🙂

maleghast12:12:06

Our water source comes off the mountain down a pipe under gravity, but there are a couple of places where the pipe is above ground, so it’s almost certainly frozen there. When it comes into the house it comes in through a filtration system and passes through a UV filter to kill pathogens. It’s been tested, and is quite safe, but of course if the supply between the mountain and the house freezes then we have to revert back to less complete solutions… 😉

thomas12:12:04

and the freezing of the pipes doesn't cause any problems?

mccraigmccraig13:12:47

if you are having to drink stream water @maleghast get yourself a berkey or similar ceramic filter - they have small enough pores to filter out bacteria and viruses (as well as the foul bleachy chemical that water companies seem to add to the water in my area)

maleghast13:12:08

@thomas - It shouldn’t - they are urethane distribution pipes, so they should withstand freeze/thaw quite well. If they don’t Scottish Water will have to replace them for us, so there might be more inconvenience but not too much.

maleghast13:12:19

@mccraigmccraig - I may do if it become something that we have to do for an extended period of time, but boiling what we need if we need to should be acceptable in the short term

thomas13:12:52

👍 and could it be that as only the part above ground freezes, there is enough room for the ice to expand to.

maleghast13:12:09

Of course it might be that the cistern outflow up the mountain is blocked with ice - if that’s the case we’ve got a bigger problem, but if the thaw brings the flow back today / tomorrow then it was the ground pipe(s)

danm15:12:31

We used to have that down in Cornwall

danm15:12:35

Stream off the carn, down to our shed, where we had a UV filtration system and some cotton filter to pull out particulates

danm15:12:57

It did mean that the water was still brown when there was really heavy rain and it had a lot of peat in it though, because the particulate filter didn't go fine enough

danm15:12:06

Perfectly OK to drink and wash in, but still, brown...

3Jane15:12:53

should have gotten in some tourists, sell it as organic water XD

maleghast16:12:51

@carr0t - That’s exactly what we have; I think it’s a pretty common system around here, the UV filter and coarse sand filter followed by fine-mesh cotton filter. We get water that’s almost completely clear unless we have VERY HARD rain.

yogidevbear19:12:03

Any Linux users here? When setting up Ubuntu for the first time, do you usually choose to encrypt the home folder? (cc @dominicm)

dominicm19:12:26

Don't do it

dominicm19:12:38

Use the full disk encryption

yogidevbear19:12:15

Can that be setup after initial installation?

dominicm19:12:15

The home directory encryption is a bit rubbish in comparison. Especially when combined with particular clojure behaviours: due to its path limit when using encfs

dominicm19:12:22

Um, not sure.

dominicm19:12:31

Particularly unsure about Ubuntu setup

yogidevbear20:12:44

Don't think I have that luxury. This machine came with Ubuntu pre-installed from the looks of things

yogidevbear20:12:50

Guess I might be doing a fresh install tomorrow

mccraigmccraig20:12:27

full disk encryption every time, whatever the o/s. all the major o/s support full disk encryption

mccraigmccraig20:12:50

(also for all your cloud servers too)

yogidevbear20:12:57

Full disk encryption it is then