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chrisjd05:08:03

Morning!

thomas07:08:08

morning moin moin

otfrom07:08:05

@bronsa just tell @jr0cket. He's doing most of the ldnclj organising atm

danielneal08:08:10

@bronsa I might even come up to london for that!

bronsa08:08:21

i don't believe that for one second

danielneal08:08:04

what I mean is, If I am already coming to london on a nearby date I might slightly amend my plans so that I can do that also, up to a maximum of 1 day either side

jonpither08:08:13

Watching downton abbey, I was struck by how they said they went 'up to London', even though there were based in Yorkshire which is north of London. I think it was posh to say 'going up to London' regardless of your geographical location, because you are ascending from your common dwelling up to the capital.

maleghast09:08:46

Yep, that was totally it, “up to London” or “up to Town”. It was the same for “going up to University” regardless of your actual direction of travel.

danielneal08:08:06

we need a matrix of location to location and whether people say going up to or down to

rhinocratic08:08:09

In my neck of the woods (Lancashire), it seems more usual to speak of going ‘down’ to London, but I suppose that the association of North with ‘up’ is somewhat arbitrary.

jonpither08:08:17

it's a binary decision, choose one of the poles to represent 'up'

thomas08:08:11

when I lived in Hants we would go 'up to London' and my assumption always was that this was due to the fact that it was north of us.

thomas08:08:45

maybe they accidentally said 'up to London' as Downton Abbey was filmed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highclere_Castle

thomas08:08:54

which is in Hampshire

maleghast09:08:16

Mornin’ everyone

jonpither09:08:54

they didn't say it accidentally - it was definitely a repetitive thing, unless they were trying to create a parallel universe where Yorkshire was south of London

maleghast09:08:30

Yeah, you are dead right ^^ @jonpither - they said it all the time because it was the vernacular of the time.

maleghast09:08:41

People went “up to London” from Scotland.

jonpither09:08:09

extra points for using the word vernacular

glenjamin09:08:29

i’d definitely head “down to” london now

maleghast09:08:08

@glenjamin - Oh yeah, me too, but I’m not an inter-war landed gent 😉

maleghast09:08:51

(if I were I would not be allowed to wear hoodies and that would be simply intolerable)

peterwestmacott10:08:31

I think for some people it depends more on relative perceived status than on geographical notions of up and down.

peterwestmacott10:08:48

i.e. if you think that London is the bees knees then it is ‘up’, if you think it a putrid festering accretion of ‘hoi poloi’ and ‘nouveau riche’ then it is ‘down’

sundarj10:08:37

as a londoner, this is all very amusing

thomas10:08:26

@sundarj maybe you can go side ways?

sundarj10:08:48

are you telling me to func myself sideways

sundarj10:08:00

how rude 🙂

maleghast10:08:16

Whenever I see “how rude” in text I always hear it as delivered by Jar Jar Binks…

sundarj10:08:53

works for me

practicalli-john12:08:44

Please can we avoid swearing or other offensive language in this channel.

sundarj12:08:15

sorry, will do

practicalli-john12:08:49

thanks for the apology and the edit 🙂 ( sophisticated euphemisms are acceptable in small doses)

practicalli-john12:08:59

@bronsa The next London Clojurians talk evening is the 3rd October. We are looking for speakers for any length of talk, from 5 minutes to a maximum of 2 hours

bronsa12:08:49

could do, I'm flying back to london the 1st of october :)

practicalli-john12:08:55

You can use the https://bit.ly/ldnclj-speak form to submit an idea, chat to me directly here on slack or on this channel

bronsa13:08:06

cool, I'll contact you ~next weekish once I gather ideas on how to structure the talk

practicalli-john14:08:03

No problem. I'll need a Title and Abstract (or at least a good draft of these, I can help tweak them if needed). You can also include a bio - info about yourself you wish to share (who you are, clojure where you work, social media if you want people to reach out to you, etc)

practicalli-john12:08:16

Speaking at the meetup is a great way to practice a talk for the ClojureX conference on 4th-5th December https://skillsmatter.com/conferences/8783-clojure-exchange-2017

practicalli-john12:08:51

We should be announcing more speakers for the ClojureX conference over the coming weeks. If you still haven't submitted a talk then contact me directly with your ideas, we have a couple of talks & lightning talk spaces left to fill

peterwestmacott14:08:51

how long are the lightning sessions?

dominicm19:08:47

https://github.com/satwikkansal/wtfPython/blob/master/README.md I realise that, consistent syntax is both hard and important while reading this.

sundarj21:08:47

can you imagine trying to debug one of those?

sundarj21:08:25

and i guess you'd have to commit a lot of them to memory so that whenever something goes wrong you can make sure it's not any of them