Morning, all you lovely clojurians

Bore da

Weird week this week...only 2 days in London, one off (attending Sunderland Uni Student Showcase) and one WFH. Travelling will kill me!

I've taken a day of leave today so (hopefully) enjoying a three day week

@agile_geek not sure if you'll remember, but I was talking about trying to give a beginner's Clojure talk at a ColdFusion conference in October. They opened up their call for speakers last week

@yogidevbear cool

I'm a bit nervous and still not sure exactly what is try talk about, but still very keen to give it a try

I'd love to wow them with something awesome, but think it'd need to be very basic

Think I remember someone suggesting doing basic REPL dev workflow, etc

😼 mogge

@yogidevbear Hmmm....I'd pick one thing you think Clojure can bring to the audience and think of ways to demonstrate that...maybe layering on more complex examples thru talk

Morning Thomas

@yogidevbear maybe show them some life updates. either cljs/clj

Would be good if you can think of a problem that ColdFusion has that Clojure makes easier....I tend to focus on immutability as a simplification of state management when talking to Java/C# devs

Interesting idea. CF is all about mutability lol

I like the idea of shaping a set of data in different ways as that is probably closest to what a lot of the devs would be doing on a daily basis

Sounds like the seed of a talk!

So the talk "only" needs to be 50 min long

@yogidevbear remember we are always here to help! if you want any feedback just shout!

I'll definitely be doing that lol

I figure if I can do this really well, I can use it to pitch to management for using Clojure at work

I'd focus on one or two points you want to make, work out where the end point is and work backwards assuming the audience's knowledge to map the journey to get to the end point. 50 mins isn't long if your audience has no background in Clojure as you've got to build their understanding. Don't get side tracked into explaining things not relevant or only ancillary to your 1-2 points. Also I'd aim for 40-45 mins and leave time for questions.

Maybe show them how to share code between clj & cljs via cljc Also mention macchiato, showing them how they can leverage the libs from JS ecosystem as well as the JVM for clj https://macchiato-framework.github.io

morning

morning @jasonbell

morning

@yogidevbear James Reeves is giving a talk this Wednesday about the case fore Clojure, should be useful to help you think about what concepts you would want to include in your own talk. https://www.meetup.com/London-Dev-Community/events/240063388/

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key, I think, @yogidevbear is to keep it simple. KISS.

Thanks for all the feedback guys

@yogidevbear you are welcome to do a practice run of your talk at the London Clojurians talk night.. a good way to get lots of friendly & positive feedback before the Coldfusion conference

Sounds like a good excuse for me to venture into London 👍

@yogidevbear 🎉 Worth every page

promise

Yea, what @dominicm said!

Data Intensive is a good one to start with @thomas

I should get some kind of referral link :thinking_face: I'd be rich

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