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paulspencerwilliams07:02:51

How often do you see the sun up Norf?

jasonbell07:02:11

@paulspencerwilliams What Newcastle Central? Only once every four years when the fog on the Tyne lifts..... šŸ˜‰

otfrom08:02:46

jasonbell oi! that fog's mine. give it back.

Rachel Westmacott08:02:13

saw some cloud-based discussion earlier - if anyone's interested thereā€™s a graph about 2/3rds of the way down this article: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/07/cloud_price_wars_resume_as_microsoft_cuts_by_up_to_51_per_cent/

agile_geek08:02:26

@paulspencerwilliams @jasonbell Well as you know, if the fog on the Tyne does lift we get to see the sun for six months at a time...but obviously have to suffer the other six months in Stygian darkness.

thomas08:02:18

@agile_geek have you actually ever seen the sun over the Tyne? Or is that some mythical event that only a friend of a friend has heard of once? šŸ˜

seancorfield09:02:44

fog on the Tyne? Isnā€™t that a songā€¦?

seancorfield09:02:09

ā€œFive Bridgesā€¦ā€ šŸ™‚

thomas09:02:23

FAKE NEWS/PICTURE!!! šŸ˜‰

Rachel Westmacott09:02:45

google reverse image search shows that picture was actually taken last night in Sweden

agile_geek10:02:01

Ok...You got me...It's all CGI!

agile_geek10:02:21

Alternative facts, Newcastle is a pleasant city with a mixture of modern innovative and fine Georgian architecture located in ... Sweden

otfrom10:02:11

Sweden? That explains the crime rate

agile_geek10:02:07

And the funny accents

thomas10:02:06

roliga mƤnniskor hƤr ...

mccraigmccraig10:02:22

( i probably violated all the policies šŸ˜¬ )

mccraigmccraig10:02:41

(good luck with google translate šŸ˜„ )

yogidevbear11:02:53

Just asked my boss if he'd pay for a ClojureX ticket for me. Fingers crossed

thomas13:02:48

@yogidevbear if you need any "help" convincing your boss... just let us know... šŸ˜‰

yogidevbear13:02:10

I might take you up on that offer šŸ˜„

yogidevbear13:02:37

I'm waiting for the other MD to come online in the states and then they're going to chat about it

yogidevbear13:02:40

It might be tricky as we don't use Clojure at work (... yet) and it's a new term to them

yogidevbear13:02:18

But I'm hopeful that they'll look at it as a vested interest in their staff and keeping up to date with current trends

glenjamin13:02:45

learning clojure is really a lesson in noticing mutable state and training yourself to avoid it

yogidevbear13:02:18

There's lots of mutable state in ColdFusion šŸ˜‰

yogidevbear13:02:29

Kind of unavoidable

agile_geek13:02:34

So there's a lesson there.... how to avoid it and why it matters.

Rachel Westmacott14:02:59

does anyone here know if mixed clojure/clojurescript projects are a good/bad idea?

Rachel Westmacott14:02:32

Iā€™m just starting out on some ClojureScript, and Iā€™m not sure if I want to be mixing it into the same project (and serving it from the existing Clojure server), or keeping it separate and deploying it to some static file hosting (like S3?)

glenjamin14:02:18

for my client/server JS projects I usually run them in the same project

glenjamin14:02:41

the server runs an incremental build and serves up the latest client code, but when deployed itā€™s served statically

Rachel Westmacott14:02:48

do you mean that youā€™re auto-rebuilding and serving through the server in dev, but deploying elsewhere for prod?

glenjamin14:02:01

roughly, yes

mccraigmccraig14:02:10

@peterwestmacott if you find a template you like it's easy to get started with a mixed project - and it's not hard to split later. if you make your cljs and api work with file: urls (mostly CORS) then you have options - my current project gets served from file: urls inside a cordova wrapper, and s3/cloudfront, and during dev also from clojure