morning

trains in the Netherlands can be as crap as in the UK. 🚂

I’m sorry to hear that

!@#$ happens... the dutch railways forgot to put enough carriages on the train today... it was extremely full.

morning

@thomas - Oh no, that is disappointing. 😞

Morning 🙂

Morning

@thomas you've shattered my illusions of European Utopia

sorry @agile_geek

Oh come on… The train would have to be short of some carriages AND late for it to be as bad as SouthEastern 😉

I've been on a train before (crosscountry) where people couldn't get on because it was so full

and to compete with thameslink it would have to have doors which have a 30% chance of stopping working and requiring a reboot of the train on any given journey

although, given that thameslinks new trains are the product of german engineering, this probably undermines the euro-rail utopia argument

Maybe German engineering is good because they gladly reject bad components...

Brits will buy bad components no doubt.

You should be grateful you get a train at all 😞 Today is my first train ride for a week….

Hahaha! This is starting to pan out like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

Oh, strikes. Got it. Was connfused for a moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kor5nHtZQ

I do enjoy the 'problems of the passengers own making' gripes on Virgin Trains East Coast. Every Friday I normally catch the first off peak train heading north out of KX and every Friday I hear people complaining that they haven't got a seat....it's Friday, first off peak train and seat reservations are free! Come on people! Are Virgin supposed to stop you getting on instead? If you don't reserve, who do they even know how many people are going to try and get on. And lastly, the platforms aren't long enough for a longer train!

My Virgin train is too long for most platforms. People tend to just walk up the train from the end of the platform, that's no excuse.

I think if it's a common problem, then Virgin should be adding more carriages to scale to the consistent demand.

Is it silly that typing lein new compojure cheshire-cat makes me all happy and excited?

Yes, because compojure isn't bidi

I have no response to that 🙂 yet

This is going to be my first web based project test

Working through chapter 7 in Living Clojure

ah

bidi is showing it's usefulness by being data already, as you can postwalk the data structure to add authentication to certain route areas, or particularly shaped data. Also, sitemaps can be easily generated from them.

Thanks for the heads up :thumbsup:

It's just the old adage: Data > Code > Macros

@dominicm hmm, possibly but it's only two trains in the evening, mainly on a Friday that may need extra carriages and you'd have to either carry these carriages all the rest of the day or add them on demand which would be a logistics nightmare. Also there's a hard limit to train length. If the engine ends up on the points at the ends of the platofrms.

@agile_geek Oh how I remember the Friday GNER scramble for the 18:00 from Kings Cross.

@jasonbell Personnally I preferred it when it was GNER years ago as the rolling stock was better and the rewards scheme was good! Commuting down to London and back every week I'd accrue enough rewards to get a free off off peak advance ticket every 6 weeks. Now I get a Nectar point per pound.

@agile_geek So, the way trains work is that they can't be different sizes on demand? 😧

@dominicm same trains run up and down east coast line with a fairly short turn around time (approx 20 mins)

@dominicm nope

obviously not unplanned scaling, but thought that a different train could come onto the platform if we need more carriages.

That seems counter to the purpose of off vs on peak. Seems more like artificial price inflation now.

Before I could convince myself it was because the train cost more because it was bigger or something.

I think it is planning problem.. you need certain trains in certain places beforehand etc.

and space, on the stations and on the platforms.

Sure, I could understand it not always being possible. But it seems like they just give up and use the same train over & over.

and in the netherland you usually can't just add a few carriages, as quite a few trains are a fixed set of carriages (a whole unit)

I suspect the railways know pretty exactly which trains are over full... and there are just limitations they have to work with. rolling stock, enough drivers etc.

No the railways are evil 👿 they are trying to drive us insane 🚆

the problem is that there has been a lack of investment by the rail companies, on many levels, and this was all encouraged by the politicians.

I don't think there is someone in an office saying... ooohhh... if we remove a few carriages from this train the passengers are going to suffer.. yes... lets do that. grand idea.

the problem is more structural then that.

if there is a person to blame I suspect Margaret Thatcher would be the right one.

anyway... I need to reboot my mac book pro... as it keeps running out of memory 😞

@thomas killing a few processes would be easier ?

@mccraigmccraig if it would let me yes...

ah, did you have that dialogue it sometimes throws up under extreme memory pressure where it suspends a bunch of processes, often including the terminal you might have used to solve the memory pressure problem ?

it did

and I don't even think I such a power user.

I guess running multiple browsers is really killing it... chrome, safari, FF, and the slack and whatsapp app (both browser based)

I use slack inside my browser 😄, why do you use the slack app on your desktop?

i think the only time i've managed to get that dialogue was when the aeron media driver (used by onyx) goes nuts and logs so hard that the terminal backlog consumed all memory... i've since restricted my terminal backlog...

I used to do that... I prefer the app though

hmm maybe I can set that somewhere.

ok limited scroll back to 250 lines... that might help

https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty just use a terminal that doesn't have scrollback 😄

@dominicm that wouldn't work if you followed alacritty's recommended setup and used tmux with scrollback!

Got me!

scrollback is coming soon™. Looks like a nice alternative to termite.

i think the quality of my life would be significantly degraded without iterm's native tmux support

native tmux support?

I don't mac, so I'm always interested by this stuff

@dominicm tmux windows appear as tabs when you connect to a tmux session with -CC ... i set up local and remote tmux sessions with lots of windows automatically (with tmuxinator) and then a tmux -CC attach -t <session-name> gives me iterm tabs, so native scroll, history search etc

Interesting. iterm seems to be really well engineered tbh.

I hope the integration is inwards, as tmux has no business calling out to iterm.

it's not iterm specific - -CC activates tmux control mode, which iirc was added from a patch from iterm's author, but is available for any terminal prog to use

http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/tmux.1.html#CONTROL_MODE

Oh okay, seems a little odd off a protocol. But looks fairly generic. Nice.

Hey @jasonbell https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/clojure-uk/p1484574780002646

@otfrom ta. not been taking a huge amount of notice here today to be honest.

@martintrojer https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/16/ann-linde-swedish-minister-xenophobia-swedes-uk-brexit