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agile_geek07:01:47

@yogidevbear congrats but were you staying up past your bedtime to do it?

yogidevbear07:01:30

@agile_geek quite possibly, but it was completely worth it 😄

yogidevbear07:01:06

My son never lets me sleep later than 7am at best and yet I still don't go to sleep before midnight on most evenings. Maybe I'll learn from my mistakes one day.

korny08:01:08

Morning, and happy new year… one of these days I’ll reopen the computer for more than just checking facebook or buying baby supplies 🙂

thomas09:01:19

HNY @korny.... how is it going? are you an expert nappy changer yet?

davesnowdon10:01:53

Belated Happy New Year everyone

agile_geek10:01:21

@davesnowdon and the same to you Dvae. Hope it's a good one

davesnowdon10:01:01

thanks @agile_geek I'm hoping to be able to spend more time doing clojure stuff this year

practicalli-johnny11:01:51

@davesnowdon we have 5 events this month, so hopefully you can join in with some… https://www.meetup.com/London-Clojurians/

otfrom11:01:53

jr0cket that is a lot of events 🙂

practicalli-johnny11:01:22

@otfrom starting the year with a big bang…. 🙂

practicalli-johnny11:01:10

Other months are not so busy yet, probably only 3 or 4 events…

practicalli-johnny11:01:48

If anyone would like to talk at the London Clojure events, please let us know http://bit.ly/ldnclj-speak

practicalli-johnny11:01:31

We have a main speaker for January, February, so still plenty of scope for people to give a quick talk or longer talk

yogidevbear12:01:11

The spacemacs session clearly has a lot of interest 🙂

practicalli-johnny12:01:06

Oh yes, thats good to know. I have learnt a few new things myself as I have been putting it together. I also got around to creating animated gifs of spacemacs from within spacemacs - http://jr0cket.co.uk/2017/01/spacemacs-creating-animated-gifs-videos.html

acron12:01:02

does this fill you with envy @paulspencerwilliams ?

otfrom13:01:21

jr0cket you'll have to give that talk at the Church of Emacs as well. 🙂

practicalli-johnny13:01:05

@otfrom I did a very rough version of the Spacemacs for Clojure in August 2016, but the audience asked me more questions about Clojure I seem to remember 🙂 Happy to do a this talk for the London Emacs Hacking meetup again, once its finished 🙂

otfrom13:01:06

jr0cket that is one way to keep Bodil happy. 🙂

practicalli-johnny13:01:25

I did the last one when Bodil was away... Bodil scares me a little 😞

otfrom13:01:57

don't anger the Holy Mother. Offer your talk 😉

paulspencerwilliams14:01:40

@acron the London-centric nature of the Clojureverse?

paulspencerwilliams14:01:11

Bexit - the exit of Birmingham from everywhere.

acron14:01:50

😄

paulspencerwilliams14:01:05

I’m hopefully running a session at WMJUG on clojure.spec on the 19th, and there’s a few Clojurians that come to BrumFP. Need to organise another session for that soon but it’s hard!

agile_geek14:01:18

@paulspencerwilliams interesting trying to explain spec to a Java audience. I think you'd need to concentrate on how it's richer than Java's type system and the generative testing bit?

jasonbell15:01:55

<<Bodil scares me a little>> @jr0cket not just me then....

otfrom15:01:19

anyone had trouble with case insensitivity on mac osx with clojure and java class names?

otfrom15:01:29

foo.example and foo.Example being different things

minimal15:01:23

I did once, was solved by turning off AOT all

otfrom15:01:42

minimal cool.

minimal15:01:08

maybe it was actually filename length due to long namespaces but same idea

mccraigmccraig16:01:48

i had gnarly AOT problems just before christmas. AOT should be avoided as much as possible

mccraigmccraig17:01:08

in particular - if you publish a lib with AOT then you are a very bad person who should feel bad and you should plaster "AOT warning whoop whoop" stickers all over your readme

mccraigmccraig17:01:53

(because the AOT will silently include dependency classes, causing a special type of jar-hell, invisible to lein deps and which can suddenly pop up many months after the lib was included in the project in response to a seemingly unrelated change)