Sterling heading for Dollar parity

I want to know if it keeps dropping under Dollar

morning

@thomas: too late to sell our Sterling assets and move to the continent now

yes… I realised that as well… this brexit thing is costing me 1000’s of euro’s 😞

one way to make sure we are staying 😉

well, maybe, but it seems to me that the euro is likely a doomed currency unless the EC pulls its finger out and enacts some serious changes, so you may yet live to be glad you have sterling assets. or maybe not, who knows

they need us to stay, so they can keep us as hostages during the EU negotiations

what surprised me most about the vote yesterday regarding EU residents...

two MP’s voted against it, why did it take a week and why was it a Labour motion, not a Tory one?

I have an american friend who gets paid in £. He's losing so much money right now. I know some british assholes who get paid in $. They're clubbing right now. Or they're waking up from clubbing.

I see much clubbing in their future

Sterling probably drop under dollar this year

What I don't understand is the logic behind this "hostage" stance. Don't these stupid MPs realise that the EU also has British citizens currently living there? It doesn't take a large leap to think that the situation could really be turned on it's head.

just using the work “hostage” is so wrong on sooooo many levels.

Saddam Hussein used to do that… and aren’t we supposed to be better than that?

Hahaha I like the example comparison

lets declare war on the Germans! That'll solve the issue

Oh boy

@yogidevbear: and that is why I think it isn’t actually that funny… (not that I mind you laughing).

this whole we are better than them, let’s invade…. oohh hang on, let’s do the same thing when it suites us.

I agree. I'm no politician and at times like this, I'm glad I'm not. A lot of this damage seems to be from individuals playing political games to further their own personal interests which is really disgusting. (Not that history isn't full of similar stories.) In an ideal world these types of politicians should face time in prison

there is definitely a undertone of "lets go back to the glory days of the empire" in the leave movement. "We can do it by ourselves, lets pull up the draw-bridges"

Its us vs 'the continent' etc etc

pull up the draw bridges and conquer everyone, yeah, the imperial undertones are particularly "attractive"

there are some fundamental martial logic problems there - it's difficult to conquer anyone when you have raised the draw-bridges !

@mccraigmccraig: not if you have icbms

or any other sufficiently long-range semi-accurate high-casualty weaponry

yeah, remote-control conquering has been working out so well for the states

or an external/internal resistance

but I don't think the pushing-70 britons with holiday homes in France are going to start a coup any time soon.

but you will have to prise their dailymail from their cold, dead, hands

Useless fact of the day: ICBM’s are not called IBM’s because of IBM.

The more you know 🌈

Morning

At risk of having people hate me… my savings are still in Australian funds. I’m just trying to guess how low the pound will go before I move them here… 🙂

Anyway, back on topic - anyone here done any JMS client stuff in clojure?

I have a working “hello world” just using JMS directly, but it’d be nice if someone had abstracted it away for me. Especially if there were nice things like async consumers out there… The only library I can find is https://github.com/sbtourist/clamq but it hasn’t had an update in 5 years

@korny: do you have control of the queue ? if you aren't forced to use JMS and you aren't needing distributed transactions then kafka + clj-kafka + onyx is great

I’m testing a particular messaging setup (actually testing a few in time) so I need to talk specific protocols.

Currently ActiveMQ / AMQP because that’s what the client is using, but going to try a few other options too.

i'm no help then - i haven't used JMS in a long long time

Yeah - most of the clojure world is using “cool new things” like kafka 🙂 Sadly big enterprises don’t move so fast.

Also, to be fair, they are using queues for cross-organisation messaging, so they do benefit from well-defined interoperable standards. If they moved to Kafka they’d have to do it in more than one department...

does clamq still work ?

Haven’t tried it yet. I’m always a bit worried about projects that are still at “snapshot” releases and had no updates for years - I suspect I’d be better off just doing my own Java wrappers.

If it’s that old, it probably won’t have anything nice like core.async integration… I did some fun core.async stuff around rabbitmq a couple of years ago, sadly that was at a client where we couldn’t keep our code 😞

5 years ago... it's probably still depending on clojure.contrib

🙂

Also I’m testing for a client that writes all their code in Java, so it’s not all bad to use the core Java libraries really - makes it easier to be sure I’m not doing something different from their eventual code. We were testing MongoDB previously, and ended up using Java interfaces rather than any of the clojure libraries...

I just feel a bit dirty writing so much java-in-clojure 🙂

anyone got any opinions on clojure/data.csv vs davidsantiago/clojure-csv ?

Hmm - I’ve used both in the past, have to remember which is which

From digging, I ended up using the davidsantiago one, plus https://github.com/metasoarous/semantic-csv for extra bells and whistles

oh, thanks @korny that's just what i need 😄

I’m all about ancient data transfer formats 🙂

Anyone want to recommend a good work laptop? I'm looking for a Windows 10 machine, >= 256 SSD, >= 8GB RAM, slim but sturdy build, not really concerned about touch screen capabilities, ranging somewhere between £500 - £1000

if it's a knife fight, i'll watch

1 GBP below 1.29 USD

Holidays in the UK are looking very cheap right now 🙂

I'd wait a while longer, it'll fall to parity with USD

You're always welcome to come for a beer or three @seancorfield 😄

But it might be you buying the beers