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Also, Daily Mail backs the next PM to be. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3668924/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-party-flames-Theresa-leader.html
That's a good gauge of doom. If DM gets the PM that it wants we are totally f-ed.
martintrojer: nice attempt at cheering me up but it's no good 😄 Oh irony, you're always there when I need you.
Seriously, I'm touting for really up beat stories/talks of cool stuff written in Clojure and difficult problems solved for Clojure eXchange.
@thomas: that was brought up in the house of lords the other day. I.e. if current EU citizens in UK could be used as hostages to force a better deal with EU.
anyway, I have no confidence in PM May making life enjoyable for foreigners (like me and thomas) in the UK.
martintrojer: I'm hearing that May is saying the same as that UKIP peer. Apparently it is only a "Shame" if said by someone not in gov't
and just think. May was for Remain (the main Remain campaign being pretty horrible and xenophobic too)
https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/clojure-uk/p1467289666000778 I'm a bit late to the party, but this was hilarious. My Dad voted out because he doesn't want Human Rights for other people. So I think the humour was doubled (again, in a sad kind of way)
fascinating how a single person (Nigel Farage) can have some much influence on a country. and scary as well.
he did kinda force the referendum I guess… if UKip hadn’t been so vocal and making Cameron scared to loose votes, he wouldn’t have called it I think. so just standing at the side line and shouting loud enough has influence I suspose.
Please quick someone talk about clojure, life is depressing enough already ATM Maybe we should create a clojure-uk-therapy channel
@davesnowdon: In case you're thinking of coming to ProCloDo this month, I am thinking of moving it to Wednesday's which would mean it was on 20th July.
@agile_geek: argh! Please no, then I'll have to explain to my wife why I can't look after the kids while she goes to zumba 😣
So I have been playing with reagent… and I need to set focus after an action. any idea how to do that?
@thomas: they are the other side of London, it would be quite a trek to collect them and come back into town for ProCloDo
Also it's looking more likely that it may become ReProCloDo if I get a contract up north again (or in Scotland before they separate from the Union)
davesnowdon: our acron has been doing a fair bit of reagent lately and has been enjoying it
@thomas: a couple of ways come to mind - you can get the dom-node with
(reagent/dom-node ref) in the
:component-did-mount function of a type-3 component, or you can set an id on an element (use
gensym to generate unique ids) and use the
thank you @mccraigmccraig I’ll have a look into it later this afternoon, when it is Clojure O’Clock again
Something that doesn't get enough attention is https://github.com/weavejester/brutha Pros: - You control state management Cons: - You control state management
I've been using it to implement a version of Redux. Where, a component doesn't alter state via swap or anything else. You create a command (redux calls these actions) and they alter the state. I think it would be really cool to have this for debugging if nothing else, plus it completely decomplects the state structure from components. It's a lot like CQRS/ES, or that's how I think about it, that might be wrong.
@agile_geek: You wanted some Clojure distractions to make you feel better. I watched this talk by David Nolen earlier. Really cool (although you may have seen it already) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTawgp3SKy8
@yogidevbear: I think I've watched the beginning of that one but didn't see it all
@davesnowdon: I think it's very similar. I want to split up commands (non-affecting of local state) and events (listened to for external state). But that may be a bad idea.
I'm going to scale it into a small example, so that should show how good/insufficient it is.
I can't see how they'd get rid of free movement. without the eastern-europeans we'd have next to no builders to build all the shit London needs, let alone other cities
I suppose it'll be negotiated by the EU and the UK. @martintrojer: You made some comments about point systems (australias I think). Do they really kick you out once they're "done" with you? Or is that a hypothetical point system moreso? I may be misremembering actually. Still you will know more than I do.
well, for a point system to have any meaning, they have to deport people that have too few points
Oh, that's terrible! Do most people in point-based migration systems apply for citizenship instead?
@thomas: must be a mistake, there is no
<a> tag around the
view the plan button !
@dominicm: with oz/nz's point based system, you get in on points, and then become eligible for permanent residency at X years, then eligibile for citizenship at Y years.
Pretty much the same as it is here for non-eu citizens. Except 'points' are just pounds.
But I don't think even a points based system is going to placate the anti-immigration crowd.
In the Brexit world, can EU citizens keep their EU passport if they become British citizens
and most countries that insist you only have one passport don't really have a way to enforce it
If you renounce your British citizenship in order to apply for citizenship of a country that only allows one citizenship and then fail to attain that citizenship within 6 months you get your British citizenship back automatically. Once a fully fledged citizen it's hard to get rid of the damn thing!
heh, if my wife was pregnant, and had the baby in the US. The baby would be a citizen of the US, UK, NZ, and Au.
Re: taxes — when I started working in the US, I was taxed in the US (as expected) and then Inland Revenue sent me a tax assessment for the same wages. I just called them up and said "Hi, I’m already being taxed in the US on this salary" and they said "Oh, OK, just ignore our tax assessment — as long as you’re paying taxes somewhere, we’re happy"… and that was it. I was shocked. I expected a long drawn out argument and to have to produce a lot of paperwork. They just took me at my word!