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2016-05-20
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quentin07:05:22

Morning 🙂

quentin07:05:26

A bit strange that "do more with less" means "less people

quentin07:05:34

but I agree with the general idea 🙂

mccraigmccraig07:05:46

fewer people is good - cheaper hypothesis testing means more ideas get tried and it's easier for anyone to get started with their own project

otfrom08:05:50

smaller teams doing more with a powerful language I think is a Good Thing ™️

otfrom08:05:22

w00t! got dual screens working from my usb c docking station for my xps13 working today

quentin08:05:54

oh yeah smaller team is great

otfrom08:05:08

I think those smaller teams also need to be pretty skilled

dharrigan09:05:45

Very easy to make decisions and execute them, and very easy whom to find when things go wrong.

quentin09:05:41

easy to know who to be angry at for this bug you have to fix a friday evening 😄

otfrom09:05:56

easy to find out who to blame here too. It is always my fault

otfrom09:05:12

saves time and provides the emotional satisfaction of having someone to blame 😉

maleghast10:05:13

@otfrom: So magnanimity and practiality can indeed co-exist!

maleghast10:05:22

Bravo, Sir, bravo!

maleghast10:05:40

(Greetings from Cyberjaya in the Kuala Lumpur suburbs)

maleghast10:05:27

BTW - can anyone give me the TDLR on why it appears to me from this remove that everyone that used to be all about Leiningen is now all about Boot

xlevus11:05:56

or, is it lispsters?

minimal11:05:43

It’s way better for things that compile assets like cljs

mccraigmccraig11:05:46

@maleghast: boot lets you do things lein doesn't - all my lib and backend projects are still lein, but my ui projects are now boot - i can have file-watcher, less-build, cljs-build, dev-http-server, and cljs-reload-thingy all running in the same process with ease

minimal11:05:00

or anything that would have a plugin in leiningen

minimal11:05:24

I convert every cljs project to boot when I work on it again. Not so motivated to move backend-only projects over yet

mccraigmccraig11:05:23

only downside to boot so far (for me) is that there isn't a boot version of lein-voom (yet)

agile_geek11:05:43

@otfrom: skilled yes but not necessarily all at same level of experience? I think you can invest in less experienced people how have the right aptitude and attitude.

dharrigan13:05:02

Man! I started writing some Java code, and I was writing in lispy format!

thomas13:05:20

@dharrigan: you wrote it the correct way

thomas14:05:39

Clojure O’Clock… clj

dharrigan14:05:39

Oh maven, why doth thou suck the entire Internet to my poor computer?

agile_geek14:05:43

Friend of mine who is not a Clojurian found this the other day. http://www.lambda.cd Anyone used it?

thomas15:05:53

@agile_geek: no… but if I remember correctly there was a talk about it at ClojureD last Feb.

agile_geek15:05:30

Looks quite cool

thomas15:05:41

it does indeed… nice thing about it is that you can store all your builds in git/scm

thomas15:05:11

so you have it versioned (which is something that jenkins 2.0 will do as well I think)

glenjamin15:05:50

i’ve done that with jenkins 1.0

glenjamin15:05:57

it’s not great

glenjamin15:05:06

well, the capability is great, actually doing it is a pain

thomas15:05:32

my understanding is that jenkins 2.0 makes that a lot easier

korny15:05:54

Ah, the promises of a 2.0 release 🙂

korny15:05:23

We have some folks using http://lambda.cd in germany - hear good things about it

korny16:05:45

ah - on digging further, that’d be because the main author is another thoughtworks person 🙂

yogidevbear16:05:25

Looks like it but I'm on my phone on train

korny16:05:49

Apache 2.0 license

korny17:05:49

I’m hacking on the train - parsing crime stats for my town, hope to put them on a d3 map...

korny17:05:04

(in response to a beat-up in our local paper about how bad local crime is)

korny17:05:30

actually probably the d3 part is most of the work - aggregating the data is too easy 🙂

korny17:05:40

(->> (read-test-file) (map (keyword "Crime type")) frequencies pprint) {"Other crime" 198, "Bicycle theft" 293, "Anti-social behaviour" 2636, "Other theft" 1557, "Robbery" 78, "Theft from the person" 354, "Drugs" 471, "Public order" 359, "Burglary" 908, "Shoplifting" 1301, "Criminal damage and arson" 1507, "Vehicle crime" 1049, "Possession of weapons" 103, "Violence and sexual offences" 2754}