Clojurians Log v2

What are the options? 😄 I'm the least important, as I may or may not be able to show up, but I’d love everything about RDF, Asami and related. Anything medically related (Snomed, etc) is extra bonus nice for me 🎉

Lol. That's what my PhD research is around 🙂

well… that and LLMs

(Integrating RDF/OWL description logics with transformer processing)

Called it!

I'm very interested in RDF and did a lot of work in datomic. It would be very nice to see some real application using RDF/OWL where it is not really feasible to know and encode the data manually. A real usecase is that I want to convert a long list of historical community centers to something that works with Wikidata. (this is my manually compiled list with some metadata, which was converted from an archival research project by some other people, many years ago: https://ettusenett.se/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Tusen-Kulturhus-Sartryck-1500-platser-for-kultur-och-moten-Folkets-Hus-och-Folkets-Park-2024-1.pdf ) I actually showed the bespoke mechanism for generating this compilation in an earlier meetup - this behemoth is written in clojure using pathom + a bunch of custom indexes to emit latex code...

But really, SNOMED is even coolt (working in health tech like Mattias!)

I haven't actually done SNOMED with Clojure yet 🤔 I make extensive use of SNOMED with RDF/OWL, and I've done a lot using Python. I've wanted to work on it with Clojure, so this might be the prompt I need to finally make that move.

I actually just got my grade back on my final-ever university class. The last item was a project where I implemented transitive closure over the subsumption hierarchy in SNOMED-CT using CUDA

1.8 seconds 😄

But that's not Clojure. However, the CUDA/Metal stuff is code that I've been trying to work on with Ferrum, and that is Clojure.

Sorry… I'm rambling

Ramble on!

I am curious about utilizing OWL/RDF/DL for my personal knowledge base. I'm envisioning automatic triple extractions that might pleasantly surprise me. I'm trying to do a kind of strict Zettelkasten for my knowledge base where most of my notes represent concepts. Not sure whether this topic would be presentable in any way, but throwing it out there. 🥹

I’m super duper curious about Clojure/ClojureScript parity.

I'm a big fan of using RDF/OWL for my personal knowledge bases. Not only do I get to store any kind of data that I want, I can document what the structures are as I go, and provide semantics for this as well. That's great if you're using an RDF database that can do inferencing with your OWL, but it turns out that LLMs are really good at understanding what OWL is describing. This is part of what I'm doing in SNOMED right now (because there is an OWL representation of SNOMED), but I'm also applying it at work

And Metal stuff in Clojure sounds exciting!

I’m super duper curious about Clojure/ClojureScript parity. This one always sucks me in. e.g. https://github.com/quoll/clormat

I mean, that's not the only thing I've worked on, but every time I see something in Clojure that I want in ClojureScript, I end up losing a weekend

That’s so much better than how I deal with it. I just sigh and wish things were different. 😃

If you look in the https://github.com/quoll/clormat/blob/main/test/clormat/core_test.cljc, you'll see that I got stuck on numbers

It’s the one thing I miss the most. The numerical stuff.

I'm only familiar with western-style Arabic numerals, and there are SO MANY OTHERS to account for

To be honest, I should have looked at the Java code to lead me through it, but I did it as a black-box implementation

Well, you know that I know about numerical stuff in ClojureScript 😜

I often chose to do it that way. I need to make my own mistakes. Then it is much easier for me to digest the prior art.

"This is the way"

A talk about Clojure/ClojureScript parity focusing on the numerical tower. Yumm!

lol. That would be easy. I don't want to disappoint the SNOMED/RDF/OWL people though. So let me think on how to approach this.

Oh! I just thought! How much time do I get?

😄

You can have all day. 😃

That’s only half a joke, but if we keep the evening/night meetup form, you can have as much time as you want to share.

Okaaaay… I will see what I can do about talking on 2 things. I don't want to keep people overly long though.

It’s not uncommon with two or three speakers on a meetup night. If you give two talks it is still more risk that people will leave starving for more than having been kept to long! The limiting factor I think is about your preparation time. Preparing one talk is a lot of work, to my experience.

Yes, but the numerical stuff can be built out of existing talks

e.g. when I spoke on cljs-math at Clojure/conj last year

Also… no one except ChatGPT got my joke 😢

I think I am out-nerded here. 😃

The joke was here:

Let’s see if @oscarlinusericsson gets it. 😃

• G - Gravitational constant • e - Elementary charge T I (columb) • e - natural logarithm (approximation) • k?

Outnerded and literally outgeeked.

The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux_quantum is typically represented in the literature as 483597.8484...×10^9 Hz/V However, this is not scientific notation, as it should show up as only a single digit before the decimal point.

Well, naming a natural constant might be nice, but some people prefer to also have their own convention on writing them...

Well, to represent the Josephson constant as an IEEE number, it has to be represented first as 4.835978484E14. This constant is labeled Kⱼ

But yes… Linus wins the prize 🙂

Eek. Now I have to come up with something to speak about!

Anyone knows about a nice and not too expensive place to stay for a night in Stockholm? Paula wants to know.

Yes please. Something within my family's budget (which is tight)

I've never been to Stockholm (!), but with Paula speaking it might be a nice opportunity. ☺️

Ooh, this is amazing. Have to make plans for Stockholm! 😀

I've worked on a few things over the years. Does anyone have a preference for a topic? This is a bit of an unusual case where I agreed to talk without thinking what people might be interested in hearing about! 😳

Oskar är @avocade här på slacken. Någon vi ser oftare här i kanalen är @felix.kauppi.alm som kan berätta om Multiply Även @henrik jobbar där. Senast jag hörde om Multiplys val av teknik ingick Rama och Electric tungt. Bara säger. 😃

Coolt 😄

Heja heja 👏 Bullish på både Rama och Electric, kul att några vågar nya vägar

Hehe, japp vi kör verkligen "cutting" edge grejer 🙂 Pinga om nån vill ta en fika efter nyår. PS. Tack @pez, och god jul om vi inte hinner ses på en promenadfika innan årskiftet också. Saknade dig på minglet i onsdags 🙏

PPS. Stämmer att både @henrik och @felix.kauppi.alm jobbar på Multiply. även @slurpbarf. Där har ni hela nuvarande devteamet om ni vill reacha ut btw (stjärna nr 5 hoppas jag kommer joina efter årsskiftet).

Ett sant Dreamteam ju!

> Någon vi ser oftare här i kanalen är @felix.kauppi.alm Spola fram till FYRA VECKOR senare 👋 missade detta helt hehe

Zombie tråd 😛

Pinsamt Felix, pinsamt.. #necro

Wops hehe

Haha

🙂 ❤️