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Morgen, heard about stencil yesterday, making it easy to make proper web components. Not sure if it works well with clojurescript.

Morning.

morning

morning. trying out several EDN serialization solutions that mostly don’t work with GraalVM

deploying our custom build background processor today… 🤞:skin-tone-2:

For now it's just bug fixing, since we started using a wsdl some meta value is now an int instead of a string 😞

bug fixing mostly

mornin’

do you guys know how to get timings of lein tests?

I think you need not default runner

https://github.com/metosin/bat-test

Like this maybe?

@helios I made a custom macro for it in advent-of-cljc to measure how fast solutions run

it works like the normal time macro, but it returns both the value and the time as data

^Welcome 👋

Bedankt 🙂

Welkom Patrick

Clojure leren op een vrijdagavond na werk ✔️

Hehehe, fortunate enough to learn Clojure for work 😆

haha

i want to introduce it at work

but have been fascinated with learning FP for several years now, but finally decided on Clojure as ‘the’ language to figure out

an environment where you have to start over completely

I learned Haskell as my first FP language

“it’s only a Java library” is a good place to start at work 😉

@lennart.buit your name sounds familiar, ever been to a Utrecht Meetup?

not that I remember

:’)

hmm ha

If I may suggest things that I found very interesting in FP that are not clojure. I really like https://fsharpforfunandprofit.com/rop/

imo shows why FP is great

nice, will watch it

you can learn a lot from all FP languages 🙂!

i agree

however I started with Elixir.. and in my opinion for me a bad idea

since i took my Ruby knowledge over

and just tried to apply it

another reason why i chose Clojure, needed to relearn it all

so i can get the mindset, principles etc in

Haskell i’ve also played with btw

if I may make a suggestion, first learn to work with a REPL and integrated editor well

https://clojure.org/guides/repl/introduction

this makes Clojure different from all other FP languages

yeah, i have been using the REPL for a while, while following some tutorials

i got VSCode now with Calva and nREPL

just have to get used to how to ‘work’ it

i’m actually very surprised how i’ve never really used a REPL before, while it’s so powerful

been working in Ruby/Go

oh I do it a lot in rails as well

rails console?

mostly because no-one is able to succesfully parse ruby

i always start rails server ha

so… its binding.pry all the way

shiny

gotta check that out at work on Monday

I’ve used that as well in the few Ruby projects I did

but come on, it’s not a Lisp REPL 😉

haha

bashing on ruby is what unites me and my coworkers 😛

or javascript

or …

so you working with Clojure and CLJS?

personally, Clojure mostly. I have a bit of javascript in front, but thats not the guts of the app I am working on.

and, apollo is quite convenient imo :’)

Apollo Client. Apollo Client is a fully-featured caching GraphQL client with integrations for React, Angular, and more ?

yeah, its a very full featured client

but as with anything full featured, its quite opinionated

if i may ask (never worked with GraphQL), why put something in between GraphQL and JS frontend?

i am looking at Vue -> Apollo -> GraphQL

and think.. why not skip the middle man?

hmm? Vue and react are presentation libraries, they don’t have to do much with fetching of data

aaah

let’s see if i get this

Clojure backend -> GraphQL

then GraphQL -> Apollo -> JS Framework frontend

in the past I fiddled around with Go backend (API’s) -> Angular frontend

right, GraphQL is just a nice way of building APIs

cool

but, graphql is a little more than just making HTTP calls to some backend, so a client is nice to have

btw @naxels, als je Clojure in het Nederlands wil leren: https://www.michielborkent.nl/clojurecursus/index.html