Clojurians Log v2

> But as far as I can tell, most clojure-using product companies are willing to onboard new hires on to the language + ecosystem. And that's what I love most about this community. It's open and welcoming to newbies of the language. I just wish most of the Indian companies had this mindset 🥲 .

@grokavi The company I'm currently working for also does the same thing. They didn't (and still don't) mention anything about Clojure in their job description. Hence I was curious if there are more companies out there that actually does Clojure stuff even though they don't mention it in their job descriptions 😅 .

I built http://unifize.com using Clojure in the backend. All devs I hired had no prior knowledge of Clojure.

I believe https://www.helpshift.com/ & https://www.valuelabs.com/locations/ are one, I haven't worked at any of them myself but I just know some people who used to work there.

Also, https://www.teamohana.com

Thanks @shantanu.s.sardesai, I knew about ValueLabs but HelpShift is a new one. Also, love your work on Jank jank ♥️ .

@mhmmdshaz98 are you looking? We are hiring.

Oh yes, where can I apply?

@mhmmdshaz98 please send me your resume/github etc.

Done, thanks a bunch @bg 🫡

In addition to the above, I'd dropped some more top-of-mind names in another thread https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/C053AK3F9/p1629011528176400?thread_ts=1628939611.163500&cid=C053AK3F9 As far as I can tell, there are a surprising number of (mostly small) Clojure-using product teams in India, in addition to the service companies (also a surprising number). Service companies have no incentive to advertise niche tech skills (they are a volume business), but the product companies do. However the products are practically invisible in the ecosystem at large because they don't show up in any meaningful way. No sponsorships, no open source funding, no tech blogging, no public speaking, no public coaching/teaching, no hosting meetups... nada.

From a career point of view, you may like to review this fairly recent discussion at r/Clojure https://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/1n4nxzb/what_are_future_career_option_for_a_clojure/ TL;DR: use technology intelligently as a tool---merely a means to an end---don't build your identity or ego around it.

@adityaathalye > TL;DR: use technology intelligently as a tool---merely a means to an end---don't build your identity or ego around it. I am in complete agreement to this statement, "but" most of the recruiters out there would consider one's previous experience in a particular language or stack fairly highly when considering candidates. I started my profession (with a proper team) as a Software author with Clojure itself (even though I have built production systems in Python, Golang and Javascript before), and maybe it's a naive approach from my end 😅 but I would prefer to write Clojure in my upcoming years as a Software Engineer.

I should say... http://nilenso.com has been the one notable service company exception... Tiny firm, but they've showed up (as in, helpfully and generously... not "look at us, we are great" way) everywhere over the years: consistently running in/clojure ever year, as well as putting out open-source work, tech blogging, sponsoring the top Clojure conferences, running clojurebridge, sponsoring their people to attend Clojure and FP conferences worldwide, also proposing talks and speaking worldwide, using Clojure for staff onboarding (even though most of their service work is non-clojure), publishing publicly-available learning material... so many ways to give back.

True, I have never heard of nilenso until I went through this Slack channel yesterday. I just found the IN/Clojure website too yesterday 🥹.

> "but" most of the recruiters out there would consider one's previous experience in a particular language or stack fairly highly when considering candidates Well, yes, for mass-market / highly marketed tech (react, mongodb, k8s, docker, java, android, ios etc.) ... But as far as I can tell, most clojure-using product companies are willing to onboard new hires on to the language + ecosystem. They tend to care about engineering chops in general, tech stack notwithstanding. Have a look at #jobs and #remote-jobs going back through 2025.

Hey, @bg still hiring ? I'm interested.

@syjmohn I have dm'd you.

Got it. Thanks @bg

x-posting for relevance and reach: https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/C05006WDW/p1770285115604709 It's a junior-level position, and the JD lists "willingness to learn Clojure"

I'd also add Quintype to the list.

Oh for some reason I had it in my head that they had closed shop. Wrong! Alive and kicking, from the looks of it.