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@gtsiftsis: mou eixan steilei ena draft gia review, alla den vrhka pote ton xrono na to koitaksw
@gtsiftsis: epishs, me ton Michael Gaare (ayton pou ekane to blog post) exw doulepsei sto idio project, kai tha elega oti o kwdikas tou pasxei apo java hangover
opote den kserw an me enthousiazei to vivlio
με τρομαζει ο clojure κωδικας που πασχει απο java hangover (lol τελειος χαρακτηρισμος, θα τον υιοθετησω)
νιωθω σαν να μην ειναι για μενα η Clojure κατι τετοιες στιγμες
@greenonion: vasika den htan heavy se interop, htan apla oti eixe protocols gia ta panta
dhladh htan sa na sou leipei to OOP kai na theleis na to kaneis shoehorn se clojure
ναι ναι κι εγω για τετοια μιλαω
οχι αναγκαστικα interop
προσωπικα με τρομαζει κι ο κωδικας του tellman
ισως να μη γινονται αλλιως αυτα που κανει, δεν ξερω
δες line 109 πχ
ισως ειναι essential, no idea
fainetai san kati pou an exeis diavasei to paper mporei na einai profanes
o Tellman telika POSA projects exei??
απειρα, αλλο εψαχνα εντωμεταξυ
αλλα δεν το βρηκα καν
νομιζω ηταν message queue
@greenonion: to lamina les?
νομιζω οχι
παιζει να μην ειναι στο προσωπικο του gh
to manifold?
οχι ρε 🙂
αυτο φανταζομαι εχει πολυ interop αναγκαστικα
https://github.com/ztellman/dirigiste πωπω εχει και τετοια ε
τιγκα java
Erotisi pros tous clojure practitioners Ston diko sas production clj codika poio programming style protimate kai me poia logiki ta kanete compose. px pure functions, functions me mutation, multi-methods, protocols, classic OOP
το πρωτο
το δευτερο ελαχιστες φορες με transients
multi-methods και protocols avoid αν γινεται
γιατι μυριζουν ΟΟP αν το παρακανεις
@greenonion: thnks gia tin apantisi
@palladin: pure functions most of the time, kai to mutation to kanw base se pure functions epishs (giati to swap!
pernei parametro kapoio pure function)
@palladin: multimethods kai protocols kammia fora, alla akoma kai tote, sta protocols xwrizw to implementation apo to protocol gia na einai pio repl-friendly
@palladin: vasika nomizw den to eipa swsta. apofeygw to mutation pash thysia.
vasika swap!
kai reset!
(me seira protimishs)
@palladin: to allo pattern pou den einai amesa profanes sthn clojure einai oti protimatai genika to data driven development
to onyx to xrisimopoei sto megisto vathmo https://github.com/onyx-platform/onyx
nai genika to data driven einai stin katigoria oti pezo me pure functions kai katharo input-output
nai, declarative mexri na anagkasteis apo thn pragmatikothta na exeis kapoio side-effect
@palladin: ti les, tha grapseis tipota? 🙂
@stathissideris: clj ennoeis?
scala makes me cry
os day job ... einai poio pithano se scala (yparxoun perisoteres douleies eidika se big data)
pros to paron xerome tin lisp meso tis pareas pou kano me sas kai me to athens community
ean psaksete edo http://www.fssnip.net/authors/Nick+Palladinos
@gtsiftsis: Nai euxtixos h distixos
kai to community me voithaei na thimame pos itan na eisai eroteumenos gia proti fora
@palladin: pantws e me thn scala prospathisa, diavasa to miso vivlio tou Odersky kai mou fanhke terastia kai apofasisa na mhn asxolithw pote
@stathissideris: Ontos einai ligo terataki
κι εγω καπως ετσι με τη Scala
νομιζω εχει βρει απηχηση σε java-δες που ηθελαν κατι παραπανω
αλλα χωρις να ξεβολευτουν κιολας
@greenonion: Yparxei kai ena pososto mikro
εισαι μεσα σε αυτους να υποθεσω; 🙂
@palladin: thn frege thn exeis koitaksei katholou?
@stathissideris: Oxi,,, sxedon katholou mono ta vasika
anarwtiemai poso “kanonikh” haskell einai
@stathissideris: Malista i Frege einai Haskell
@palladin: thanks pou to tsekares 🙂
Nomizo tha to vreite endiaferon http://www.computerhistory.org/pdp-1/1020b307d766e0019de2b4addcc86dee/