quil is the go-to

visualizations in general are not super active in the clojure community

if you want to write shaders you basically have to go for play-cljc or something similar

which means you'll be writing not simple 2d graphics stuff but a full on 3d pipeline

Got it. Honestly doing 3d might not be terrible since I could get some interesting 3d rotations or something as part of the visualizations.

I think I'll still start with quil. Appreciate the input!

For clarity if you've never done much in graphics: all 2d stuff is just an orthographic projection over a 3d "simulated world"

the entire graphics pipeline using GPUs is all 3d

So quil and other 2d tools are either slow because they don't use hardware acceleration, or they're a 2d projection of a 3d space.

in the case of quil it's the latter

So what I'm meaning to say here is if you go the play-cljc route or similar and make hardware accelerated stuff from the ground up, you can get the same 2d results, you'll just be building them yourself.

@U5NCUG8NR when you use p3d renderer with quil, you get hardware accelerated 3d stuff, no?

probably? I've never looked at quil. The point I was making is that "all hardware accelerated graphics on modern hardware is 3d", not that quil wasn't hardware accelerated.

I found that shaders can be done with 2d and 3d renderer, so Quiĺ might be a good choice. https://processing.org/reference/shader_.html

ah, good to know