clojure-europe

plexus 2026-06-29T04:38:11.916279Z

It's a mixed bag here... We have a pretty dense highway network for a small country. Much of it was built in the seventies, and we did not sufficiently keep up with maintenance and modernisation through the 90s and 2000s. We're catching up now, at the moment there are some big infrastructure projects going on on the ring around Brussels for instance, but some roads haven't really been upgraded in decades.

plexus 2026-06-29T04:45:44.867469Z

Roads are a regional responsibility (the regions being Flanders, wallonia, and Brussels). The first two have significantly increased their maintenance budget and are doing a lot of renewal projects, Brussels however has severe budget issues, and was politically dreadlocked for over a year, so the situation there is not likely to improve any time soon.

thomas 2026-06-29T06:38:06.506099Z

Good morning

simongray 2026-06-29T06:58:16.646609Z

good morning

nnecklace 2026-06-29T07:24:53.913009Z

good morning ☀️

plexus 2026-06-29T07:34:15.822949Z

good morning!

Thomas Moerman 2026-06-29T07:37:09.136039Z

Schuman should be the prime target for guerrilla tile flippers and tree planters.

Thomas Moerman 2026-06-29T07:37:34.243079Z

I'll gladly fund some pickaxes and shovels

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djanus 2026-06-29T07:39:22.860699Z

Good ♨️ morning

2026-06-29T07:40:25.787699Z

Please ignore the bit of metal there. It really isn't a good idea to move towards metal things on a military firing range. (and I'm glad they warn you about it)

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reefersleep 2026-06-29T08:19:12.296419Z

Good morning 🙂

simongray 2026-06-29T09:04:02.865999Z

Evening!?

simongray 2026-06-29T09:04:43.046849Z

Really enjoying the normal 22 degrees overcast summer weather we returned to this morning.

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djanus 2026-06-29T09:07:52.950759Z

Enjoy! It’s still 37°C here in Warsaw, but we’re forecast to return to normal over the next couple days

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slipset 2026-06-29T09:20:47.544049Z

Yes, 2000 hours our time. I feel the evening greeting is warranted, even if we're on UGT.

jasonbell 2026-06-29T10:55:49.619029Z

It might have been a publisher decision. One publisher wanted to charge me for the generation of the index…… I said no but they went ahead and did it anyway.

2026-06-29T12:59:05.967479Z

longing for that bubble to pop (I'd be happier if it did it and caused slightly less collateral damage)

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jasonbell 2026-06-29T13:20:58.313459Z

I was looking at the salary averages on IT Jobs Watch, damage is being done from a financial perspective in my opinion.

ray 2026-06-29T13:24:33.793269Z

I believe that is its stated job 🤷🏼‍♂️

ray 2026-06-29T13:26:00.914599Z

💣🧨 🏭 💣🧨 🏭 💣🧨

ray 2026-06-29T13:27:15.224779Z

🔨 General Ludd needs new, bigger tools 😉

ray 2026-06-29T13:28:10.784429Z

drones can easily destroy a data centre (proven recently in West Asia)

ray 2026-06-29T13:31:36.528549Z

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgk28nj0lrjo

2026-06-29T13:31:36.650399Z

unless data centres get human rights first (some slight hyperbole from me) https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/the-world-today/2026-06/worlds-internet-infrastructure-under-threat-who-going-protect

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ray 2026-06-29T13:32:29.723189Z

Who is paying Calum Inverarity?

2026-06-29T13:33:31.018579Z

The ODI https://theodi.org/about-the-odi/governance/

ray 2026-06-29T13:33:54.812449Z

ha, you are paying for it

seancorfield 2026-06-29T13:33:59.554739Z

This is why #C0B7Q4XRM1U exists, to balance #C068E9L5M2Q etc 😉

seancorfield 2026-06-29T13:35:14.822809Z

While I enjoy constantly learning new stuff still, after 45+ years in IT, I am also glad that I am extremely close to retirement and never have to deal with the job market ever again 😐

ray 2026-06-29T13:35:16.252649Z

create #plan-drone-attacks-on-ai-infra and I'll join ;-)

2026-06-29T13:37:53.383219Z

I do think having military things in civilian data centres is a bad idea. It isn't to the level of using human shields, but it is running down the same lines of thought (esp when you start to think about hospital and health service data and coordination done in data centres)

ray 2026-06-29T13:39:22.936939Z

The US armed forces moved from their bases into local hotels which is very much human shields. But yeah, running military operations from the same data center makes it a legitimate target.

seancorfield 2026-06-29T13:40:51.615109Z

The whole "AI data center" thing has made me wonder more about existing "cloud data center" infra and how much we've already ignored this problem for the years (decades?) that we've shifted to "the cloud" -- we no longer know what a given set of servers is running, since we virtualized everything into shared systems.

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seancorfield 2026-06-29T13:42:31.950789Z

At work, we use managed virtual servers -- and we've had a couple of instances where the data center company has had to move our systems to different (physical) servers to avoid negative performance impacts from other companies' loads running on the same hardware as our systems. With no indication of what those companies' systems are doing to have such an impact on us.

seancorfield 2026-06-29T13:44:38.876189Z

The convenience of having zero downtime CPU, memory, and disk upgrades is very compelling tho' 😕 And even near-zero downtime migration of our "servers" to new hardware -- they migrated our entire QA & production clusters to new hardware a year or two back and it took just seconds...

seancorfield 2026-06-29T13:47:50.457779Z

@otfrom I just need to ride out one more year, until I can get Medicare here (still not completely free, but the closest the US has to the NHS setup). Healthcare here is brutal! 😞 I had to go to the ER (A&E) on Saturday for chest pains and high heart rate -- I was very dehydrated after too much exertion in the basement and hauling stuff up stairs but I thought I might be having a heart attack -- and even with their 20% discount for payment on-the-spot, it was over $900 for a couple of hours (chest x-ray, fluids, two rounds of blood tests).

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seancorfield 2026-06-29T13:51:31.324689Z

(because I had not hit my deductible yet this year -- on a plan that costs me over $1,000 per month in insurance!)

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Anton Shastun 2026-06-29T13:56:23.884729Z

@borkdude are you playing a piano?

borkdude 2026-06-29T13:56:47.492889Z

yep

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Anton Shastun 2026-06-29T13:57:43.060039Z

whats you favorite melody to play in the morning? )

borkdude 2026-06-29T13:58:44.762699Z

I'm more of an evening player ;)

Anton Shastun 2026-06-29T13:59:25.638449Z

then what is you favorite melody for Sunday evening? )

2026-06-29T14:09:58.369439Z

yeah, people outside of the US really, really don't get how terrible the payments are around US healthcare

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2026-06-29T14:10:08.396109Z

I'm glad you are ok and sorry for your bank balance

seancorfield 2026-06-29T14:16:16.767379Z

Having my wife on Medicare now (since she turned 65 in November), has roughly halved my payment, but with gap insurance etc for her, that's close to $500/month. My company pays $400/month on top of my payment BTW. And the out-of-pocket max is about $9k/year I think -- which I never hit, so even that outrageous monthly payment only covers part of any healthcare I need. If you have to have anything done that insurance refuses to cover -- which is more common than it should be -- you end up paying nearly all of that. Several years ago, we got into a battle with insurance about a treatment my wife needed every three months, that cost $10k per treatment. After a lot of time, effort, and stress, insurance agreed to cover about $7k for each treatment -- so that was still $12k out of pocket. I really do miss European healthcare 😐

seancorfield 2026-06-29T14:17:49.590949Z

Mind you, she's had two full knee replacements this year and we've paid nothing for all of that (well, nothing except the $500/month! 😄 ).

borkdude 2026-06-29T14:19:52.309479Z

I don't have any one particular melody, I just play to learn new stuff usually

Thomas Moerman 2026-06-29T18:29:18.117699Z

HurrAI! crying-laughing-joy-blood 💸 💸 💸 https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/1ufkc2q/then_vs_now/

seancorfield 2026-06-29T19:00:06.283979Z

I remember buying a fairly early color PowerBook that came with 4MB RAM installed and I added 16MB RAM. According to Copilot, that was probably the 1400c and cost about 2K GBP back then and the RAM card probably cost about 450 GBP. I had a 520c before that (also came with 4MB RAM but could only be upgraded to 14MB total apparently -- I thought it was that one I'd added a 16MB card to, but Copilot says not).

seancorfield 2026-06-29T19:00:47.917959Z

Going from 48 GIGABYTES to 64G for $200 seems like a bargain compared to the old days 🙂

Thomas Moerman 2026-06-29T19:10:50.679869Z

The thumbnail only shows half the picture, apple apparently doubled RAM prices

seancorfield 2026-06-29T19:32:39.538529Z

Yeah, I gathered from the comments. And Apple's own RAM has always been very expensive compared to market prices for 3rd party RAM. And at various times, they've used custom configurations to prevent you buying 3rd party RAM. I was an Apple customer from '92 up to about... maybe a decade ago? I just got tired of their walled garden BS and their "design premium" prices.

seancorfield 2026-06-29T19:03:42.049689Z

(the 520c had 160MB HD -- which seemed insanely huge at the time... one of my earlier computers, a SAGE IV, had 1MB RAM and a 20MB HD!)

ray 2026-06-29T21:43:58.103909Z

Is AI your new RAM pack? Priceless 😅