Clojurians Log v2

and we miss you 🙏

Business as usual. 😁 I was so glad to get away from all that. Not so happy to still be on the receiving end of the output, though, now that I know how the sausage is made. 😛

But to be honest, if they had paid me closer to what I was actually worth I might have stayed a few more years in that whirlwind… it’s an important mission, after all.

what was the company?

@borkdude It’s not a company but rather a big project designed to overhaul the Danish tax system for real estate, so it’s technically under the Ministry of Taxation.

Oh I think I've heard about that

hasn't that been going on for years and years?

yes, it is significantly delayed. It actually has a couple of big Clojure components, which is how @reefersleep and I know each other (we worked on the same team). Unfortunately, it suffers from extremely poor management and scope creep.

And employees running away

I've worked at the Dutch tax service once. Never again

I think most big organisations will be somewhere on some spectrum from bad to terrible.

It was early on in my "career", 1.5 years wasted I'd say

haha, exact same timeline here.

@borkdude is that where they adopted Normalized Systems theory for their development? (https://www.computable.be/2018/01/23/fiscus-kiest-gedurfd-voor-normalized-systems-van-nsx/)

I don't know what this is, but that's like 8 years after I left

ah

in my case it was very tedious work (often not even code but clicking and dragging things) and often periods without work (like the first few weeks... they hired me and other people for a project which was cancelled) and internet was restricted. it was basically boring as hell and all creativity was sucked from you as much as possible

but not all departments and tax services are created equally, sorry for ranting about my own tax service trauma ;)

we all have our trauma's 😉

the drag-drop tools makes me wonder though: now that a lot of the boring parts of coding are driven by LLMs (whether you're for or against it, it's a phenomenon): will the drag-drop tools be phased out in favor of more code-driven tools? (my wife certainly hopes so since she sometimes has to deal with PowerBI)

ugh ... power bi ... I'm so sorry