Clojurians Log v2
clojure-europe
Morning!
mogge
good morning
morning
morning all 🙂
Good morning
Man, I feel like I live in a completely different world when I read Hacker News at the moment. Here I am, contemplating whether a function should take 3 parameters or take a map parameter, and people on there are herding parallelized teams of AIs, spitting out new code bases in hours.
go for the map I'd say
and ignore HN
I feel ya. Since fall/winter 2025 I feel I've been yanked into a parallel universe where I've become a Star Trek computer beta tester.
Make that alpha.
I feel ya. HN has been like 95% boring AI hype content ever since ~2023 or so.
maybe we should all go back to /.
just showing off how old some of us are. 🧓
I wasn’t even really more than a lurker of slashdot. I mostly visited OSNews back in the day.
I always have been a lurker on those things... (slack seems to be the exception). I used to read /. al lot and then one day HN just took over. I still sometimes look at /. just read the entries that I couldn't be bothered to click on in HN and then get the short entry from /. a day later.
All good technology boards are niche. If they stop being niche, they stop being good.
I feel ya. HN has been like 95% boring AI hype content ever since ~2023 or so.This, I'm so tired of AI talk. Maybe I should take @thomas ' advice and take a break from HN
Which boards do you prefer?
Most can't be mentioned in polite company. Board is a loose term, too. The Clojurians slack is one example.
I pretty much gave up reading HN... it always seems like most of the folks there spend their time arguing about stuff rather than actually making stuff... r/Clojure is pretty good (but Reddit in general is no better than HN, IMO). I guess it depends what you want from a forum / board / chat group?
IT is such a huge space that "general" topic spaces just don't have enough focus or signal-to-noise to make them valuable to me...
Reddit is completely taken over by bots and normies. I want to migrate to the decentralised version… eventually.
and let me just say... this slack is my second home. I just love being here.
I think I learned about Clojure from HN
for me it was the other way rond, I learned about HN from Clj 😉
I might also have learned about Clojure from HN actually
I have never been a HN person 🤷♂️
@jackrusher any other place you like to frequent?
I always enjoyed LtU http://lambda-the-ultimate.org
morning
Currently yak-shaving my way around Apache Jena’s janky query timeout behaviour. I just wanted to integrate my SPARQL tutorial with my SPARQL editor and it made me realise that I need to guard against all sorts of dumb queries.
TIL you can have multiple :when clauses in a for :
(into {} (for [form-element form-elements
:when (not-empty (.-name form-element))
:when (or (not= (.-type form-element) "checkbox")
(.-checked form-element))]
[(.-name form-element) (.-value form-element)]))@ben.sless hmmm... can you give an example?
It's just that for expands to huge code and is generally slow
For comptehensions are expressive but expensive. Xforms bridges that gap
ah, so it's an alternative library implementation of the for macro. Do you usually use these more performant alternatives? Not sure how big the gain is.
It depends. Can be quite significant. For a for comprehension specifically you can exceed maximum bytecode size for a jvm class
for is pretty great like that, you can keep adding :when / :let interspersed with bindings
Then just use xform's impl and you got yourself a party