clojure-europe

2025-11-27T07:04:06.685369Z

Morning

simongray 2025-11-27T08:41:07.989289Z

morning

ray 2025-11-27T09:05:04.116329Z

Good codeberg morning

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ray 2025-11-27T09:05:32.547079Z

https://codeberg.org/raymcdermott

ray 2025-11-27T09:06:18.444419Z

Bye bye Github, your new AI overlords repel me.

ray 2025-11-27T09:07:32.514379Z

Inspired by https://ziglang.org/news/migrating-from-github-to-codeberg/

2025-11-27T09:51:38.278369Z

I'm there too, tho I need to move off of github properly https://codeberg.org/otfrom

2025-11-27T09:52:13.494889Z

I think the blocker for me is that I need private repos for open source client work. The code is under Eclipse, but the client chooses whether or not to re-distribute not us

2025-11-27T09:52:39.844559Z

it probably means I need to spin up my own forgejo somewhere (or find a coop that will host it for me)

ray 2025-11-27T10:24:03.034319Z

it's OK to host them there https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/#how-about-private-repositories%3F

ray 2025-11-27T10:24:19.891079Z

or maybe you are pushing their boundaries?

2025-11-27T10:24:54.630199Z

I'd be pushing their boundaries a bit, but there may be ways to make it fit in

ray 2025-11-27T10:25:32.805729Z

it seems like they're open to discussion, so it's worth asking

2025-11-27T10:26:13.455699Z

it looks like it. I think they probably are the place to move to

2025-11-27T10:26:34.850439Z

tho something hosted in the UK might make things a bit easier for me given that the data is from English local authorities

ray 2025-11-27T10:40:09.360749Z

good luck with the search and please spread the word when you find something πŸ™πŸΌ

2025-11-27T10:40:29.038619Z

I will

2025-11-27T10:41:53.649579Z

in the worst (best?) case I might have to start my own co-op for it

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:11:29.045019Z

for a while https://sourcehut.org/ was a bit hot in the no-github space, what happened to it? lately I see most people mention codeberg

ray 2025-11-27T17:31:22.184539Z

It’s still good. I think they take a very strict approach to git which might not be to everyone’s taste. The project has also migrated including Drew himself to Europe.

2025-11-27T10:37:57.836479Z

Morning

Rachel Westmacott 2025-11-27T16:05:28.542119Z

Morning!

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:08:34.483629Z

Good morning! (better! morning)

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:12:56.274819Z

I'm really happy I found an awesome location for #babashka-conf!

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Ludger Solbach 2025-11-28T08:23:55.854249Z

Is the location near the one of the dutch clojure days?

thomas 2025-11-28T08:30:06.413399Z

Where is it @borkdude?

thomas 2025-11-28T08:32:22.263609Z

but that doesn't have an address on it? (at least I haven't seen it

teodorlu 2025-11-28T08:38:52.721569Z

You're right. I found an address, but I'm not sure if it's the conference location or if it's some contact address. I'll leave this one to the Dutch-speaking organizers.

thomas 2025-11-28T08:41:27.321719Z

I looked at the locations tab... and there are quite a few in Amsterdam... so hence my question.

borkdude 2025-11-28T08:44:48.637599Z

Check the meetup page, it should say OBA Oosterdok. When you click on details it says Forumzaal, 6th floor

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borkdude 2025-11-28T08:45:26.633569Z

It’s the main public library building in Amsterdam, very nice

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thomas 2025-11-28T08:45:36.574639Z

hadn't seen that yet

thomas 2025-11-28T08:56:16.263729Z

great location!! and near the station, so even better πŸ˜‰

borkdude 2025-11-28T10:19:54.190599Z

here is a 3d view of the room: https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=woPwxWoL6d3

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:14:02.746699Z

care to spoil?

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:14:16.762459Z

I'm so glad somebody decided to sponsor! πŸ€—

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:14:36.686899Z

https://oba.nl/nl/oba-congres/oba-congres-forumzaal

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:15:06.806309Z

Oh, I maybe misunderstood β€” that was the planned location all along, right?

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:15:30.193509Z

I found it yesterday

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borkdude 2025-11-27T16:15:49.287429Z

and today it was confirmed

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teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:16:27.460099Z

Right, space for 90 now! That's a bit more than last time I read about the location.

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:18:09.992699Z

it's going to cost some extra money but I already have one sponsor from the community for 500. the space + catering costs roughly 1600 but I'll find more sponsors :) if your company is open to sponsoring a part of this, feel free to reach out. the perk is that you will be mentioned as a sponsor on the website and at the conf

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borkdude 2025-11-27T16:18:40.185369Z

first I had a location that advertised 60 but when I booked it, they said 48. that was going to be crammy so I'm just glad I found something way better

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teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:19:57.595589Z

I can ask around β€” but working for the government can be stringy sometimes. Sure, we can host a meetup! Sorry, buying beers is not okay. Maybe some other Norwegian companies are interested.

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:21:16.035859Z

oh don't worry about it :)

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:21:32.821339Z

are you a bunch of freelancers btw?

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:21:49.896759Z

Nope, regular employees πŸ™‚

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:21:59.551259Z

of the government?

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:22:02.325699Z

Yes

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:22:28.172669Z

are you working with cjohansen and magnus as well or do I misremember?

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:23:02.600119Z

I am, in addition to @sardtok, @smestad and @mathias.iversen487. Six Clojure devs!

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:23:13.666499Z

wow, that's great

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:23:38.531709Z

It's very cozy in our little room at work! We're mostly there in person, with some exceptions.

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:23:59.564159Z

is this all in Oslo?

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:24:04.659489Z

Yes

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:24:19.694349Z

Contractors were use extensively in the Food Safety Authority up untill about five years ago, when it was concluded that was a bad idea. After the people who had built things left, nobody knew how to work on the code. Now we're trying to make decisions that make sense in the long term. That means keeping the same developers around.

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:24:34.418319Z

Maybe Oslo should host the next EuroClojure then. It seems to be a vibrant Clojure dev city now ;)

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:25:36.429679Z

We do get regular activity around lunches and the occational meetup! @daslu is actually coming to Oslo to teach us about data science next week.

teodorlu 2025-11-27T16:25:59.893999Z

Downside of doing it in Oslo: everything is expensive! Especially food and drinks, compared to most other places in Europe.

borkdude 2025-11-27T16:26:34.064309Z

true

slipset 2025-11-27T17:01:16.545389Z

Both @borkdude and I were recently in the US. That place isn’t exactly cheap.

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borkdude 2025-11-27T17:02:46.304919Z

that's true as well

Sardtok 2025-11-27T17:49:36.695209Z

With the current exchange rates Norwegian prices aren't that horrific.

onbreath 2025-11-27T18:18:47.166859Z

Hello, I'm going to babashka-conf and Dutch Clojure Days from Berlin next year. Inspired by similar threads for the conj, I'm wondering if some people would be up to look for shared accommodation, to save some money, but more importantly, to be with like minded people outside the conference. We could hop on a call to talk about it as well.

borkdude 2025-11-27T18:43:21.587299Z

Great to see you there! I don't know your real name, but have you registered yet for bb-conf? Just double-checking since places are limited :)

borkdude 2025-11-27T18:43:57.374739Z

There's also #babashka-conf and #clojuredays (although this channel is probably better populated, just naming these channels for more options)

onbreath 2025-11-27T19:54:47.137129Z

Likewise! Yes, got my registrations in a bit over a week ago when more spots were available. Thanks for asking. Yes I thought I ask slowly through the various channels until some people might be interested.

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Ludger Solbach 2025-11-27T20:13:06.350809Z

I will be going to both events from Stuttgart, but I have yet to decide for how long I will go and where I will stay. Maybe I will combine it with a small trip to Amsterdam and other places in the Netherlands.

onbreath 2025-11-27T20:14:28.766779Z

Hi Ludger πŸ‘‹ great to hear from you. And vacation in the Netherlands is a lovely idea!

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onbreath 2025-11-27T20:17:15.462849Z

I'm "Adrian | Berlin" in the scicloj calls, so we shared quite some time there in the online conferences this year. 😁

Ludger Solbach 2025-11-27T20:55:32.454099Z

Yes, I remember and it was a good time. πŸ˜ƒ