clojure-europe

ray 2025-09-18T04:53:16.077319Z

Good morning

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reefersleep 2025-09-18T07:30:52.733239Z

What a view ๐Ÿค“

teodorlu 2025-09-18T11:21:49.043799Z

beautiful.

teodorlu 2025-09-18T11:22:31.389799Z

your home or office perhaps? I'd love to have that view as a backdrop when working โ€ฆ

ray 2025-09-18T11:42:10.119529Z

lol 29th floor of the hotel

ray 2025-09-18T11:42:31.237289Z

In Sofia

teodorlu 2025-09-18T12:06:10.368379Z

That makes more sense, haha ๐Ÿ˜„

reefersleep 2025-09-18T12:10:20.384409Z

I got Hotel-y vibes from the decor, I think

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ray 2025-09-18T12:16:11.812669Z

The same bar at night

reefersleep 2025-09-18T13:31:51.051399Z

Not the perfect ergonomics for board games, but we'd pull through

2025-09-18T05:05:07.932329Z

Morning

simongray 2025-09-18T06:22:13.527709Z

good morning

Ludger Solbach 2025-09-18T06:51:27.150359Z

Morning

dharrigan 2025-09-18T08:13:07.849429Z

Saw this on the orange site this morning: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45283887. Seems like slack did a rug pull for the non-profit in question (https://skyfall.dev/posts/slack). I feel it's only a matter of time when slack do it for Clojurians.

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gunnar 2025-09-18T08:58:37.068269Z

Maybe it's time to leave Clojurians slack behind and move to Zulip

simongray 2025-09-18T09:50:10.085529Z

itโ€™ll happen if we get rug-pulled, but you canโ€™t move that many people without an imminent threat

hkjels 2025-09-18T09:58:10.328619Z

I would prefer IRC

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thomas 2025-09-18T12:33:38.906709Z

@jasonbell and I will refer to pigeons in that case.

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gunnar 2025-09-18T12:35:16.038559Z

I haven't used IRC since ... well I've no idea, but are there modern clients with notifications and support for rich content?

hkjels 2025-09-18T12:40:20.743559Z

notifications etc for sure, but I see it as a bonus that it doesn't support "rich" content tbh

hkjels 2025-09-18T12:40:27.432449Z

its just text

seancorfield 2025-09-18T16:43:01.992269Z

@hkjels The IRC community still exists but it is very small by comparison. Zulip is the second-largest active community at this point.

seancorfield 2025-09-18T16:44:17.844259Z

Since we are sponsored by Salesforce, rather than on any special deal, the "worst" they would likely do to us is simply withdraw sponsorship and leave us back on the free plan that we used for years before we got sponsored. So we'd lose files and history, but the community would remain.

seancorfield 2025-09-18T16:45:03.703349Z

Every time this comes up, I suggest -- as an Admin -- that folks migrate to Zulip. Some subcommunities here already have moved. Most folks stay because they prefer Slack.

hkjels 2025-09-18T17:58:51.416219Z

Ohh. I thought that was closed years ago. spinning up erc ๐Ÿ™‚

seancorfield 2025-09-18T19:24:53.286559Z

@hkjels If it helps:

(!1997)-> cat ~/.ircrc
join #clojure
ignore * CRAP

(2025-09-18.15:23:50)-(~/oss/seancorfield.github.io/public)
(!1998)-> env|fgrep IRC
IRCNICK=<**my nickname**>
IRCSERVER=irc.libera.chat

seancorfield 2025-09-18T19:25:31.289819Z

Note that it moved to Libera.

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seancorfield 2025-09-18T19:26:35.575499Z

Other communities listed here https://clojure.org/community/resources (also check the RHS of the r/Clojure subreddit page for more resources/communities)

thomas 2025-09-18T10:48:12.130609Z

Good morning

teodorlu 2025-09-18T11:21:28.714869Z

Morning! โค๏ธ ๐ŸŒง๏ธ

lread 2025-09-18T11:26:44.148139Z

Good morning!

simongray 2025-09-18T12:15:26.298749Z

Our IT department has the worst policy: new version of Mac OS is out? Well, you get 5 days to update it yourself or we will enforce it remotely. For security updates that is a fine policy, but they donโ€™t distinguish between those and major updates, and a new Mac release is always so buggy in the beginningโ€ฆ

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borkdude 2025-09-18T12:17:23.390659Z

When I worked on a university once, I bought my own laptop to bypass all this nonsense

vijaykiran 2025-09-18T16:02:12.988789Z

Interesting - the general corporate policies are way more conservative than that - we always had wait for X.1 when X.0 is released

simongray 2025-09-19T06:47:21.980159Z

Yeah, I've never experienced it anywhere else either. They are always trying to reduce the amount of versions of software that they support, I think that's the idea. They also constantly threaten to phase out all usage of Macs, but a substantial minority of the researchers here prefer Mac so I don't see that happening ever. They also insist that the only version of Linux in use on university computers is Redhat Enterprise Linux.