Clojurians Log v2

I love Peter Seibel's formulation https://gigamonkeys.com/flowers/. It hurts! You grew those flowers! But in the end, you (might) want simplicity and calm in your day. Jack Rusher also discusses this a nice way in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeXCvh5X5w0. There's a creator in you and a critic in you. And you need both. The fact that you suddenly let your critic shine does not denigrate the work of your creator, they just both have their roles to play. Keep on simplifying ("killing your darlings")! metal

"Write drunk, edit sober". Damn, this sounds like vibe coding.

That was a very nice edition of ClojuTRE btw (and the only time I went there)

> "Write drunk, edit sober" That's basically how I wrote my Master's thesis.

> "Write drunk, edit sober". Damn, this sounds like vibe coding. with all the bad connotations of drunk — not Dionysus-infused creativity with wine, dance and music; instead, bad facepalming off the of the road, smearing mud every conceivable place …

Good question. I have a http://mailbox.org account + custom domain. I still forward to gmail since I like their interface better, but I moved most of my accounts off it

http://mailbox.org is a Berlin company

I'm in the same situation. Considering moving because I've heard terrible stories of people being locked out of their accounts. Gmail has been wonderful, but that seems like a huge risk.

No matter what you do: start by getting your own domain. I did that 20 years ago, and used Gmail for business for many years, and switched to Hey a few years ago. No one noticed, since I own my address 🙂

my github commits are tied to my gmail address though. I wonder if I would get too much spam when I would switch that. also I don't know if it would affect other stuff.

I got used to the gmail interface as well... and 20 years ago it was really good.

changing this in github now

not a problem, you can tie multiple e-mails to it

Hey looks good

still USA I believe

Yes unfortunately 😞 Otherwise very good 😄

I don't get spam for the (protonmail) email address I use on my commits. I do get a small amount of spam for a (simplelogin) alias for it that appears in a popular github repository.

and they only support their own client. no POP3 or IMAP

How do you feel about self-hosting?

@thomas Yes, Hey is a proprietary add-on. I don't care much about the raw data, so no matter for me. If you want to use a desktop client, there's no point in paying for Hey. The product is a good UI 🙂

I wouldn't recommend email self-hosting (SPF,DKIM,Spam lists, IP Blocking is a nightmare)

Oh, those things are a solved problem.

There are lots of out-of-the-box solutions that set that all up for you

It is not complex technically, but it is the IPs marked as spam and getting email delivered to without being marked as junk is a pain. I second the option of getting own domain and host with any decent provider.

I'm hosting my own blog/website and I also get sometimes people saying that their ISP blocks it for some obscure reason. With my blog it's only mildly painful but with e-mails it could get very painful.

I switched from Gmail to Fastmail a few years back, and have been happy with that. The interface is similar to gmail, but better (imo). They have a good reputation about privacy, but I think they're vulnerable to Australian law (same as in the US, the government can demand access if I remember correctly)

The problem with running your own email server is you will get spam filtered by the big providers. I just pay for Proton and call it a day

The one thing that gmail is damn good at is… search within the inbox. That’s probably the only thing I really miss with other providers. If anyone has a good recommendation for a service that comes close in terms of search, I would probably try it out.

Fastmail is decent. It has all the filtering mechanisms that gmail has, and it even searches within attachments. Not sure if it is as good as gmail though.

I am preparing a switch to Proton. I’m a pretty heavy Google Docs and Sheets user, but Proton is building stuff like that too. + vpn and a password manager and things.

That's interesting! I still have my google account because of docs/sheets too.

I've been using Proton (visionary plan) for a long time now - calendar + mail + VPN + drive, The only pain point is I can't use "stock" apps for mail and calendar on mobile. Otherwise, a pretty good deal.

Yeah I am talking about uncanny good full text search… somehow Gmail always seems to find what I’m looking for by just me typing a word or two in the search box

Perhaps LLMs can help with that, not sure

To even the playing field for other providers