Oh, Ray, just fog off.

You can’t haze me

Vaujany

Grenoble 🙂

Is that where you are?

No, but once upon a time I lived there for a year.

Ah, so you know the region. I'm envious - it's a lovely place for sure and I'm only seeing it through fog 😂

It’s a nice place, but most of all it’s quite close to a lot of interesting places to ski and climb

UI is not definitely their forte. Only comfort comes from the fact that Azure is even worse 😉

I guess neither of you has used the IBM cloud?

Actually… I’ve “used” IBM Bluemix or whatever it was called.. When they acquired CloudFoundry and broke it

it's no longer called Bluemix I think.

I remember they had weird stuff like a mandatory “load balancer” which was expensive as hell and it didn’t balance load

This was ~2016

I worked on it a bit last year for a client and they had to buy a third party firewall for $$$. very weird indeed, even the IBM'er I was working with thought it was very weird.

“AWS - at least we are not Azure” and yeah I’m a multi-cloud consultant 😅 I would say GCP is by far the worst UI

And never used IBM so @U052852ES wins

😇

even worse.... I worked on the IBM cloud (2016, when it was called Bluemix)

I only looked at it from afar 🙂

And speaking of Azure - they have yet another IaaC called Bicep - and the people decide it is better than terraform - now I've two problems

I feel we can blame Thomas for anything we don't like at IBM

sure, I have no problem with that. And I actually feel honoured that you think I had that much influence!!! 🙏

I think for recurring tasks it makes a lot of sense to have some code in a dev-namespace that utilizies aws-sdks.

Agreed, that’s what I do, I just use CLI mostly.

haven't used that for a while nor have I used Neo4j in the last 14 months or so. Maybe use the Java client directly?

Yeah thinking the same too @U052852ES. Shame as I’ll have to change a lot of import code I wrote around that library at the time.

Thanks for the headsup

yeah... shame.... maybe time to fork neo4j-clj and update it?

possibly

could be lots of work of course.

It could be. I’ll have a think.

@U052852ES The Go driver works fine…. I need speed of development that fixing drivers/libs sadly.

It might just be a candidate for #clj-commons just saying