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schmalz07:09:58

Morning all.

thomas08:09:06

TGIF!!!! and it is sunny!!!!

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simongray12:09:00

Same! it’s wonderful!!

ray08:09:00

Myself and my wife went spider shooting this morning

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thomas08:09:50

sounds rather cruel, but love the result.

ray08:09:00

No spiders were harmed 😆

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thomas08:09:18

then again, shooting a spider sounds like overkill 🕷️ 🔫

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pez12:09:44

My Bug-a-salt has been busy this summer. Not for spiders, though. Those are my friends and allys.

pez15:09:00

The past week we have had company from a cross spider weaving a net outside our kitchen window (such that the spider catches flies trying to fly into our kitchen). It has been super interesting to study her as she catches prey, stores it and eats it. As she mends the web when it needs it. As she waits patiently for hours. This night she tore down the old web and weaved a new one.

ray18:09:07

Web site, under construction

pez19:09:19

That’s wonderful!

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pez16:09:17

Here’s our house spider. I’m surprised she doesn’t have a name. Everything gets a name here. But not this lady.

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pez18:09:42

My wife just tried to give her the name Cruella. But I don’t think it will stick.

ray19:09:00

Dalmatians are too big 🙂

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pez19:09:30

Are you sure?

slipset08:09:33

Fun to see DHH making life easier for the popcorn salespeople 🙂

lemuel08:09:34

He’s such a drama llama

Marius08:09:03

You refer to the recent video “Microservices vs. Monolith”? It seems he prefers to pick controversial topics (controversial being against mainstream).

lemuel08:09:30

He’s just removed typescript from one of his projects without consulting anyone using it. I’m not a big typescript fan but he does things just to create drama

Marius08:09:12

Ah ok, thanks

pez09:09:49

It does seem to create drama, but I find it highly unlikely that was the intention. Seems like he has super good reasons. How it breaks packages I don’t understand. Personally I kinda like TypeScript, but I use it in a very opt-in way. For people who think that the center doesn’t hold without static types, I can see how it hurts their feelings. Still, as the maintainer you need to choose tech that you enjoy to maintain. He clearly didn’t with TypeScript.

simongray09:09:25

have to agree with @U0ETXRFEW on this one

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vemv10:09:16

"Open source is not about you" and all that 😄 When seen with that perspective, the community response on https://github.com/hotwired/turbo/pull/971 seems pretty pathetic to me. Complaining and upvoting is so easy. What's the real impact? • Fairly sure that the "existing PRs" can be trivially upgraded • IDE autocompletion can be restored with external type annotations The important thing is to respect authors, and act as makers, not as complainers.

Ben Sless12:09:30

"Open source is not about you" moment Let there be a renaissance of dynamic languages on the tail of this decision is all I can ask for

agigao14:09:48

Have been working on Groovy/Grails legacy code for about 1.5 months now and it has given me hope. A hope that Clojure has long and prosperous life ahead.

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Ed15:09:08

Oh ... I last did a Groovy/Grails project in 2009 - which was about when I got into Clojure ... I'm having flashbacks to hacking around with the MetaClass hierarchy to work around bugs in Grails ... 😱

Ed15:09:42

good luck with your escape plan 😉

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