I might quit if my workplace moves to teams

There are wonderful peer to peer end to end encrypted solutions

It's the only thing considered "secure" here. People have already suggested/thought of hosting their own Zulip or Discord or whatever

What would you prefer in that regard?

A self-instance of a Matrix server is not hard to set up... But I don't know if your company has time/resources to maintain a selfhosted service.

Discord is fun and I have used it for work though, yeah, any central system has security issues. To imagine that Teams is more secure is hilarious. And I agree with @UK0810AQ2 that it's absolute torture to use.

Matrix seems like the obvious solution to me

Discord is an absolute no-go in terms of security esp wrt trade secrets. I'd go with self hosted Matrix or Zulip, or if you want to be extreme, Keet or [redacted to avoid another flame war]

What? I thought discord is THE place where you can store national secrets 😛

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/04/13/ukraine-war-plans-leak-discord-server/

We're all on Office 365/Outlook/etc at work but we still use & pay for Slack because it's just objectively better than Teams. We've set Teams up and tried to use it... but, ugh, we use so many integrations that are available out of the box with Slack...

I'm mostly worried about Teams not being available on my phone (also due to security concerns), the history being searchable but very poorly navigable, and a generally shoddy interface 😞

@UK0810AQ2 I don't get that reference, what's War Thunder?

@U0AQ3HP9U it's a war gaming simulator who's players have become notorious for leaking classified military documents in order to win internet arguments. "No, this tank's front armor is such and such cm thick" "Do you have any source to back that up?" >leaks tank spec It got to a point where in security disclosure questionnaires they asked if you play war thunder

hahaha

According to what I read, this leak was also in order to win an internet argument

If only we could harness the power of internet arguments for good, all of our problems would be solved

ooo i saw that too... (probably because you boosted it?) ... it is very neat

i think learning arithmetic ops in multiple bases or counting systems is great - it gives you a much better appreciation of the operations

i did teach my kids binary long division during first lockdown

The best debug technic is a good night's sleep

indeed

Get all your work done in 5 am to 12

Is this in Scheveningen or where did you live?

Yup.

Amazing

I guess your dog was not there 🥊 🦊

Nope. It would have been impossible to film the fox with my dog going apeshit

reminds me of London. We have a fox here but he's a lot shyer

only one fox in London?

Hmm … so “a fox” and “one fox” are both “een vos” in Dutch?

It depends on how you pronounce it but I guess it also depends on how you understand things

I wish I could remember the entire Venn diagram of homo-x's... Homophones, homonyms and so on. They're often relevant when talking about language, I find. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Homograph_homophone_venn_diagram.png

So "een vos" and "een vos" is a homograph, but not a homophone.

So I guess a heteronym?

When you say "Don't you have a laptop? I do have a laptop and it is metallic gray", it doesn't mean literally that you have just one laptop, but you can interpret it that way

In Dutch when you want to disambiguate between "1" and "een" (a), you can write één for "1" to emphasize how it's pronounced

Same here, I guess (en laptop and en laptop). And we use the accent similarly (én).

We had one vixen in London where we lived. It was her territory. I've seen a fox only once where we are in Scotland

I think very few languages bother to distinguish between "a" and "one". English is an exception. None of the languages I am familiar with have a separate word like "a" (apart from English).

Yeah - we don’t have anything similar in Indian languages I know (e.g. https://www.ling.upenn.edu/~jason2/papers/hindidef.htm) . Also I don’t think they exist in Polish. English is a strange language 😁