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grav04:03:22

Morning 🙂

simongray06:03:59

this your neighbourhood?

orestis06:03:53

Yes, but it's instagram-like. The only wide pedestrian street like this in the entire city of Athens. Just one block away there's a ton of car traffic and pollution 😕

orestis06:03:06

Still, nice to be able to pop out with the dog and/or kid.

orestis06:03:46

The thing I miss the most from CPH is the clean air.

simongray06:03:23

air looks pretty clean to me?

orestis06:03:56

On this street, yes - but my apartment needs air filters.

simongray07:03:00

Ah. When I was living in China we just bought two Xiaomi ones. Pretty cheap and they worked very well to reduce the Beijing smog that crept in from every uninsulated crevice.

simongray07:03:10

I highly recommend them.

orestis07:03:41

I have 3 already. I might need a fourth one to cover every room 🙂

simongray07:03:25

anyway, Athens is a really nice place! the food is great, even the stray dogs can be nice 🙂

orestis07:03:36

So walking down the street I can definitely smell the car exhausts, in a way that I never did in CPH. I think it's probably that Greeks can't afford newer cars, or maintaining their existing cars.

orestis07:03:50

This plus the mopeds!

orestis07:03:23

Athens is indeed a great place! Especially if you're Greek 😛 Some things were easier in CPH but there's no perfect place on earth.

simongray07:03:54

yup, it’s all about appreciating what’s good/special about the place you’re living

orestis07:03:50

If I was entrpreunerial I'd try to bring the shared-battery-moped model to Athens. There's a ton of "business" moped traffic (deliveries etc) that could easily be electrified.

simongray07:03:34

please bring that to Copenhagen too… I can stand the noise from the Wolt delivery people 😁

orestis07:03:52

Has it gotten worse? I remember seeing Wolt mopeds in the bike lanes a couple of times and it was definitely annoying.

simongray07:03:54

It actually doesn’t bother me out here in Ørestad, because the delivery options are pretty bad so few people out here order any 😅 but it used to bother me a lot living in Nørrebro during summertime

genRaiy07:03:30

good morning

otfrom07:03:41

I have ceased being a 🐔 farmer

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mccraigmccraig07:03:36

all the 🐔 escaped ? or did you get 🍗 ?

otfrom08:03:28

Derek has returned from his trip reviewing the Tuscan wine range for Lidl

otfrom08:03:32

they are his chooks

otfrom08:03:49

I am but a Derek flavoured substitute

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otfrom07:03:55

we did get 🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚

mccraigmccraig07:03:06

how do you name libs ? i have naming block and need help... i've got three libs looking for names and no inspiration

borkdude07:03:08

describe the lib and I'll shout the first name that comes up in me ;)

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borkdude07:03:45

is it an internal or external lib?

borkdude07:03:49

public/private I mean

simongray07:03:03

unless it’s a world-changing invention, I just go with the obvious combination of words that describes what it does

mccraigmccraig07:03:19

there are 3... • a micro-lib for react/helix state management • a front-and-back-end async-friendly port of re-frame • a SQLite+IndexedDB local-first persistence lib for native+web apps

mccraigmccraig07:03:45

they are/will all be public and are in various states of completion

simongray07:03:26

(not the name, but it helps with inspiration)

borkdude07:03:49

"nanostate" is what chatgpt suggested for the first one :P

mccraigmccraig07:03:11

loool @U04V15CAJ - that's a good idea

borkdude07:03:46

for the second it says: uniframe ;)

mccraigmccraig07:03:16

it's temporarily called a-frame atm, but i don't like it

borkdude07:03:42

@U0524B4UW: for the first one, alternative: "deepstate" (I made that up myself :P)

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simongray07:03:51

deepstate :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

mccraigmccraig07:03:58

@U4P4NREBY i spent a minute wondering how "thesaurus" was related to any of those projects 😬

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borkdude07:03:21

@U0524B4UW for the second one: resync, or relix?

simongray07:03:00

what I mean is, for any kind of naming thing, whether it be variables or libraries, a thesaurus helps with getting unstuck since you can start with the word you’re thinking of and see all the alternatives

simongray07:03:17

(macOS includes several, BTW)

mccraigmccraig07:03:22

i got there in the end @U4P4NREBY 🙂

borkdude07:03:45

for the third one: does it use sql to access data?

borkdude07:03:08

or what makes it unique compared to other solutions?

mccraigmccraig07:03:51

@U04V15CAJ the SQLite storage backend uses SQL, but the IndexedDB storage backend obvs doesn't ... it presents a consistent interface for native+web local-storage persistence ... there are a couple of other solutions out there (e.g. watermelon, RxDB), but neither of them really worked for my use-case

borkdude07:03:57

but what is the user's interface?

borkdude07:03:23

is it a kv store?

borkdude07:03:42

gotta go now, but these details may matter for a good name

mccraigmccraig07:03:40

i.e. there are point queries for single records by key, and there are range queries for sorted lists of records

mpenet08:03:41

for internal/work use, the most obvious name possible. oss: something short and that possibly won't clash with others

mpenet08:03:52

these are my 2 rules basically

otfrom08:03:48

I'm really bad at names, but keep needing to come up with them (I mean, come on, I named the company Mastodon C). The mistake I make is saying "we're going to call it this unless someone else has another idea" and everyone else is really bad at naming too

mpenet08:03:25

finding company name is next level difficult, it has to be legally unique

mpenet08:03:34

struggled with that one

mccraigmccraig08:03:29

i did ok with the last company/product name... but it did take many cycles of proposal/rejection

borkdude08:03:07

@U0524B4UW name for the third one: recording ;)

mccraigmccraig10:03:03

deepstate is a definite keeper (thank you @U04V15CAJ 🙂 ) ... i will think on the others - but thank you all for your collected naming process insights!

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orestis10:04:36

To find the name reseda I looked for a 6-lettered word that begins with re and was pleasant to read, and also didn't have a negative meaning. Reseda is a kind of flower, can't get any nicer than that.

schmalz08:03:10

Morning all.

dharrigan08:03:39

Good Morning!

reefersleep11:03:33

Good morning! A couple of days ago we had a tiny layer of snow again, now it's pouring rain. It's truly Spring In Denmark.

mpenet11:03:50

Same on the other side of the bridge, depressing

reefersleep12:03:00

I don't mind the rain 🙂 Though I'm looking forward to warmer weather where I don't have to dress my son in layers and layers. It'll be such a breath of fresh air to just waltz out the front door.

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reefersleep12:03:32

Is git just dumb sometimes? I can't believe it. I'm doing a merge and it's repeating the entirety of the file, even where the contents are identical, as "new from other-branch".

simongray12:03:27

> git | ɡɪt | > noun British informal, derogatory > an unpleasant or contemptible person: that mean old git | a warped, twisted little git.

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simongray12:03:26

See also: Sir Walter Raleigh

otfrom13:03:09

Linus did say he names all of his software after himself

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seancorfield16:03:20

CR LF vs LF line endings perhaps?

reefersleep16:03:08

@U04V70XH6 I was guessing this myself. Though I don't understand how it occurred. Must investigate more.

reefersleep12:03:26

It's not indentation differences either, so far

jackrusher13:03:15

We're having thunderstorms and hail this afternoon in Berlin. 🙂

otfrom14:03:42

14 and cloudy in Tayside

jasonbell14:03:59

There’s blue sky here, can’t quite fathom that one out.

otfrom14:03:55

Jade, did you go to a different country?

thomas14:03:10

different planet!

simongray15:03:49

HN comment section which feels like it's straight from the 2000s: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35371750 I did not realise the Americans never banned incandescent lightbulbs.

reefersleep15:03:39

Related; my girlfriend is having trouble finding bulbs of any type that produce "natural warm light". Nothing seems to satisfy her, even incandescent bulbs. It's related both to the strength of the light, but more pertinently, to the color; she got geeky about the ways you measure that, I don't remember the nomenclature. Anyone else had any adventures in this regard?

simongray15:03:11

IKEA has some wireless ones that you can make any strength/colour you want. We've used those for many years.

simongray15:03:57

Their Phillips Hue competitor, basically.

seancorfield16:03:03

We still have a couple of incandescent bulbs in use at home. We mostly switched to CFL ages ago but those are stupidly hard to dispose of safely (and they still burn out fairly quickly) so we're in the process of switching to LED bulbs everywhere. But, just like decimalization in the UK, it's taking years to change over as we wait until each bulb burns out before replacing it 💡

seancorfield16:03:28

(I'm in California these days, in case anyone is wondering, but originally from the UK)

reefersleep20:03:20

We must have tried those, @U4P4NREBY, we are steady IKEA consumerists. My girlfriend is really picky about some things 😅

slipset07:03:44

My wife (architect) is constantly frustrated about lightbulbs for some reason. I’m happy as long as they provide light

reefersleep07:03:25

I've come to appreciate certain aspects of aesthetics more over the years. I didn't really care before I met my girlfriend 🙂 To my detriment, I think! I lived in a cave.

slipset07:03:09

Likewise. There’s a lot of things I now appreciate that I wouldn’t have if it hadn’t been for my wife.

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orestis10:04:59

I think the term is Color Rendering Index or CRI...

reefersleep07:04:08

Yes, I remember her talking about that, CRI.

mccraigmccraig15:03:28

anyone tried out emacs 30 yet - is it time to move, or still too early ?

otfrom15:03:41

it was ok for me, tho I was on head (which broke for a bit)

otfrom15:03:51

what do you want out of 30 that you can't get from 29?

otfrom15:03:55

or indeed 28?

mccraigmccraig16:03:56

been on 29 for a while... iirc it was native compilation which prompted me to upgrade... no idea about anything in 30 though, just saw that there was a homebrew of emacs-plus@30 if i wanted

otfrom16:03:37

more treesitter stuff? nothing as new as treesitter itself I don't think https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/master/etc/NEWS

mpenet19:03:17

More recent eglot maybe, but there are other ways to get it