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slipset08:02:58

Cold morning?

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lread14:02:20

Cold here in Ottawa now, too! -30° C!

slipset08:02:15

Only about ten here

orestis08:02:13

Good morning! My talk wasn't accepted in Conj, so given how amazing my proposal was, the quality of the talks is going to be phenomenal 😅

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orestis08:02:47

This was meant to be self-deprecating! Let me rephrase: I think that given there were 100 submissions and only 23 slots, I think that these slots will be given to much more interesting talks than my experience report.

orestis08:02:01

I might submit the talk to an online meetup instead.

kardan08:02:52

Don’t worry, the humor traveled over the tubes

borkdude10:02:03

@U7PBP4UVA London Clojurians is a good place to give talks outside of conferences. My nbb talk wasn't accepted when I submitted it to re-clojure in 2021 but instead I got offered a place at London Clojurians, which is quite good as you have the whole evening just for your talk :)

orestis10:02:47

London Clojurians is definitely interesting! Is there also a discussion after the event? I’ve only watched recordings.

Gabriel Kovacs11:02:32

When receiving a rejection do you also get feedback letting you know why the talk was rejected and how you could improve to increase your chances for next time?

borkdude11:02:17

The feedback I got was that they had made a different selection, but that the talk was still interesting enough for London Clojurians

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Gabriel Kovacs11:02:20

Thx for the info. I thought that this would be similar to the selection of papers in an academic context.

borkdude11:02:28

I think one of the issues may have been that the theme was data science and I wasn't even aware of that ;)

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orestis11:02:56

There were many, many talks that were on-topic and interesting but we just simply did not have room for (almost all in fact!) - the selection process was very difficult. After several years with few in-person conferences, there are clearly many people with interesting stories to tell. We would encourage you to submit these talks to future Clojure (or non-Clojure!) conferences.

orestis11:02:21

That was my feedback. I don't think the Conj team has time to give feedback to 70+ not-accepted talks.

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Gabriel Kovacs12:02:39

I must admit that I am ignorant with regards to the effort that goes into organizing such a conference.

slipset07:02:31

Btw mine was not accepted either. I think that makes it the least interesting talk proposal I have ever had. It’s been rejected at five or six different conferences now.

orestis07:02:00

Aw sucks. For me it’s partly also a relief, I don’t have to stress over the next couple of months :)

slipset07:02:34

This is true. Now I can just enjoy the conj.

slipset07:02:42

It would have been a bit weird being in stage telling Rich why we went for Postgres instead of Datomic

orestis08:02:14

Well, why did you? 😅

orestis09:02:57

We didn’t choose Datomic because that was one exotic technology too many. We already picked Clojure in that area, and for a company with clients that might want their data exported or even connected via a BI tool, SQL was the obvious choice.

borkdude09:02:52

PostgreSQL is so awesome. It always works, it’s very carefully crafted over the years, like Clojure. And it’s open source

borkdude09:02:30

And when you need some dynamism, jsonb FTW :)

Jakub Holý (HolyJak)07:02:49

I'd like to also join this club of rejects :-) My Unscaryfying Fulcro talk has now been rejected 3 times so I still have a way to catch up to Erik 😅

reefersleep08:02:41

I don’t think I’ve ever heard negative words about Postgres 😮

Jakub Holý (HolyJak)22:02:20

I have 4: it is not Datomic 😉

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schmalz11:02:33

Morning all.

genRaiy12:02:18

Good morning

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