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vemv05:08:19

crashy morning 🚵 💥 (I'm unscathed fortunately)

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mccraigmccraig09:08:15

a nice little lie down on the trail ?

vemv10:08:19

so far I've always survived trails / bikeparks / skateparks while all my screwups have been just jibbing near home 🙃

mccraigmccraig10:08:24

ah well - long may the unscathed bit persist! i had my own crashy morning a few days ago (also, thankfully, emerging unscathed) - gravel landings are horrid 😅!

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vemv10:08:44

wish I wore more protection, I don't think it's uncool but the heat is unbearable here (well they're uncool in that sense :) )

mccraigmccraig11:08:58

yeah, i started wearing kneepads when riding near home (southern UK) last year ... i don't do anything extreme, but i do come off occasionally ... but i wasn't wearing them when i crashed on hols the other day, 'cos 38℃

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lread12:08:54

Had a freak crash on the trail in summer of 2018 that broke my pelvis.

lread12:08:29

I no longer dance like Elvis.

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mccraigmccraig08:08:02

ouch - that is a bad bone to break @UE21H2HHD

lread13:08:55

Yeah, I must have hit hard, that's a big bone to break. Weird thing is that I have absolutely no memory of the crash. Riding, then coming to splatted at the bottom of a hill. I can only assume squirrels were involved.

vemv13:08:54

😞 was it an arduous recovery? how are you these days?

lread13:08:58

Oh it was a bit long yeah, hospital for a week, and then a long while with crutches after I was mobile. My back is a bit wonky, so there are stretches where I don't ride at all anymore. Which is OK, I'm thankful for all the beautiful rides I've had.

vemv14:08:16

gutted to hear that human anatomy is so buggy

lread15:08:57

Meh, we live, we ride, but only for so long, right? But also yeah, the design of the human back kind of sucks.

javahippie06:08:21

Good morning! Just learned the hard way that I should use printf instead of echo to output something to a file in a build pipeline

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pez08:08:56

I'm curious about some scar tissue you might have acquired. 😃

javahippie08:08:02

Sure about that?

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pez08:08:56

To me it often has been about portability, but that shouldn't be a problem build pipelines?

javahippie08:08:24

The build worked locally, but not on the Pipeline, so it could be seen as a portability issue

pez08:08:15

Ah, yeah, of course!

pez07:08:19

Morning!

simongray09:08:49

dates—not the fruit kind—currently obstructing my hopes of a productive morning :face_with_rolling_eyes:

mccraigmccraig09:08:41

the nasty non-ISO8601 kind ?

borkdude09:08:46

I love the fruit kind

simongray09:08:49

nah, just having to marshal between frontend and backend and ensuring the same result in dev and prod environments.

simongray09:08:11

I’m mostly annoyed by the fact that JS—and thus ClojureScript—doesn’t support dates as a separate entity, without the confusion of timezones or hour of day. Would make things so much easier.

jkxyz09:08:39

I totally read this as the Tinder kind of date, so that's where my mind is at this morning I guess

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simongray09:08:51

hah, I wish… or maybe not

reefersleep09:08:16

I don’t think that would make your life simple nor easy, @U4P4NREBY

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reefersleep09:08:49

js is good enough, I guess, but when it’s not good, it’s annoying

reefersleep09:08:49

But Clojure is not optimal for time stuff either. #instant uses a deprecated date format underneath.

simongray09:08:48

yes, but in java there is LocalDate which does what I need, i.e. a LocalDate is just a slot in a calendar and it doesn’t change when you change timezones.

simongray09:08:58

i.e. putting a time zone on 2022-08-09 doesn’t really help you since the time wasn’t relevant at all. Having to convert to instants/Dates—which JS wants—you suddenly need lots of defensive code that removes the hour-of-day and timezones unless you want the date to change.

simongray09:08:14

Easier to keep it as strings, but then you need to make sure the sorting code sorts the dates correctly… argh!

pez09:08:42

Because reasons, I just found this slide deck on writing, thinking and learning. http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/mc/WriteThinkLearn.pdf Gold: • Clear writing leads to clear thinking. • You don’t know what you know until you try to express it. • If your writing is nonsense, maybe your thoughts are nonsense too! The last point is extra interesting, I think. I often vet my ideas by trying to write a little story about it. If I can't formulate a story it is an indicator that the idea is crap.

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lread12:08:28

Thanks for sharing! I'm still learning to edit down my ramblings. That last slide was made me smile (but would not if I had not read the whole deck, so clever!).

pez13:08:24

Haha, yeah, that slide had me laugh out loud, even.

pez14:08:39

And here's a great (imo) intro to non-violent communication. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b7NOYMuFCQ Totally leaves me wanting to learn more about it!

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otfrom10:08:16

I like that the English word "essay" is from the French "to try"

otfrom10:08:31

so I like to "essay" my understanding by talking/writing/coding

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genRaiy12:08:58

Good morning. It's an 🍏 day

lread13:08:43

Good morning!

javahippie19:08:51

Good morning again

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schaueho06:08:01

I thought the Schlossbergturm is closed currently?

javahippie06:08:37

Maybe you are thinking of the Schauinslandturm?

schaueho06:08:38

No, I heard some folks talking about it in front of the also closed one on the Rosskopf. Apparently they were wrong. 🙂

javahippie06:08:49

I was up there legally 😅 But sad to hear that the one on the Rosskopf is closed, it‘s one of m favorite spots 😞

schaueho06:08:44

The Rosskopf one seems to undergo some reconstruction work. No idea how long it'll take.