clojure-europe 2022-05-31

Not sure what the attribute here is, when you say good morning, it's a kind of greeting, maybe :wish ? Or is it :subjective-opinion ? There is surprisingly little said about this on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_morning

plexus08:05:22

Wiktionary is better for that: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/good_morning

plexus08:05:34

> an ellipsis for an expression such as "I wish you a good morning"

plexus08:05:39

feels very OO, (.wish you (.. (MorningBuilder.) good build))

plexus08:05:02

or perhaps (.wish you MorningTypes/GOOD)

plexus08:05:34

I guess we don't have a good programming equivalent of "wishing", the closest I can think of is asserting, so (assert (good? morning)) perhaps

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ray08:05:59

Good morning

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ray08:05:27

@plexus I think promises are a kind of wish 😉

plexus12:05:16

I like this version: https://twitter.com/MisterABK/status/1531594950504235009

otfrom12:05:11

that's unfair. In Scotland our detectives are Sad & Drunk & Wet

ray12:05:32

Iceland is so pissed that it's moved to France

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ordnungswidrig13:05:38

@U0525KG62 no sexy drunk wet scottish detectives?

otfrom13:05:12

no, but there are sad, cold, wet, drunk detectives

otfrom13:05:58

I think "Dougie" might get the closest to sexy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Henshall

otfrom13:05:22

David Tennant plays a detective sometimes, but never one in Scotland

plexus13:05:17

the person tweeting this also made this sketch, which still cracks me up every single time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-OOpZitfd0

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borkdude14:05:58

same :)

otfrom14:05:58

he is a funny comedian (referencing older threads here)

otfrom14:05:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRXn-g1s4T8

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ordnungswidrig14:05:01

Why does youtube enable italian subtitles for me now?

thomas13:05:40

Morning

practicalli-johnny15:05:05

Today I am mostly hacking Clojure on my android, with Neovim, conjure (aniseed for fennel configuration), clojure-lsp, all running on Java 17 (and remembering why I don't like airports - although the WiFi has much improved)

slipset16:05:55

So, my newly confirmed son has decided to take his new life as a young adult seriously, and get himself a Linux pc. Now, it’d be cool to give him a little bit more of a project feel to this, rather than a polished experience. Perhaps not starting from running dd to install the boot loader, but something that gave him a feel for what an operating system consists of. Anyone got any pointers to something like that?

dharrigan16:05:31

What type of experience would you be looking for?

slipset16:05:56

Not sure. Perhaps somewhere around what I felt when installing slackware back in the early nineties. But then, perhaps not 🙂

dharrigan17:05:05

I think Arch would be a good distro to try.

dharrigan17:05:17

The instructions for installation are very very good

dharrigan17:05:54

gives you a reasonable "bare bones" setup. Generally, Arch wiki is the gold standard for documentation for Linux

dharrigan17:05:15

practicalli-johnny19:05:13

Compiling a Linux kernel was quite an eye opening experience... Ah, that reminds me of they joys of Slackware Linux back in the early 1990s Arch is far too easy :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

dharrigan20:05:54

I spent many a year in my yewth compiling kernels for all types of custom setups. It was fun, but I'm older now, so no need for that amount of customisation 😄

practicalli-johnny21:05:15

The recurring nightmares I had about compiling a kernel and forgetting to include an import driver or feature eventually faded... especially once modules could be loaded dynamically 😆

ordnungswidrig10:06:03

Thanks for the memory. I traveled from the local university with a stack of maybe 20 3.5" floppies back home to install SLS.

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ray19:05:26

I would go with Ubuntu or Mint because keeping the machine up to date is much more painful with arch ime

dharrigan20:05:23

I think Erik is looking to help teach his kid some fundamentals, and whilst I totally agree if you want a pain free experience then install Ubuntu or one of its derivatives (or Centos), having an insight of how it all is put together from a more bare bones point of view can be invaluable later 🙂

dharrigan20:05:00

Oh, an in the 4+ years of running Arch, I've never had any issues in keeping my system up to date.

dharrigan20:05:10

As a rolling distro, it's always up to date 🙂

dharrigan20:05:32

Unlike the 6 monthly will it upgrade cleaningly or not with Ubuntu (I had an unfortunate 21.10 to 22.04 upgrade experience, where one of my kernel modules woudn't upgrade cleaningly 😞 ).

ray21:05:35

Unfortunately I had two total rebuilds of arch within 3 months and never had any issues with Mint so I guess ymmv

ray21:05:17

Anecdata is all we have 😂

dharrigan05:06:19

🙂

dominicm05:06:58

I need to reinstall my Ubuntu server because it's not rolling release and I'm too scared to update it.

ray22:05:48

Full transparency, I've never owned a Linux laptop

ray22:05:36

And I've got a MacBook Air on order so plenty of 🧂 🧂

practicalli-johnny12:06:11

I’ve just been given a Mac book pro for work, so if you have any tips or tweaks or apps / package managers I should use, I’d be keen to hear about them. I would like a decent terminal window and ideally zsh (I use presto community confi for that with fish-style completion. I’ve added homebrew, but only because it seemed the only way to install a Git CLI client. Emacs / Spacemacs is installed and neovim is next I guess I’ll use homebrew for Clojure, but may get Java from Adoptium (depends on how homebrew packed Java joke)

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