Morning

👋 ☕ 🥐

Good Morning!

morning

Moin moin

Morning all!

Morning!

anyone here have suggestions on what libs to use to create and distribute desktop apps for Windows/Mac/Linux?

Good morningÜ!

That's way too broad @otfrom - depending on the software budget, deadlines, target machine specs etc.

I'm writing it. I don't have much budget. I'd like it to be clojure and on the jvm or other clojure compatible target

Morning

(->> "good morning"
     seq
     shuffle
     (apply str))
=> "noro ongdmgi"

godmon ringo

a better drummer

:drum_with_drumsticks:

ooirggonn md - possibly a doctor ? 🩺

nnig oormdog

moon dog ring 🌔 🐶 :telephone:

Anyone know of a good way to reload environment variables into a running Clojure process? It’s the main thing I’m missing in order to avoid having to restart the REPL atm.

you cannot

the env in the JVM is immutable

I think you could hack it, depending on what you mean. In Java, you have to use reflection to change environment variables for the current JVM process, so presumably you could do that in Clojure. But what does “reload” mean? (I.e. what’s being loaded? Did you update your shell config, and want the new variables from that, or..?)

updated the shell’s env vars, want to put those into the JVM

@borkdude I did see a Java hack for it, guess it can be ported to Clojure, thought I’d ask first, though 🙂

It is a hack and this won’t work for some cases

You could write something to launch a new shell process, read the environment variables, and set them in the JVM

But things that have already used those values won’t change, so I guess you could end up with some confusing behaviour

finally getting around to trying out libpython-clj

so far pretty smooth

@raymcdermott TIL, clojure.core.specs.alpha also works with #babashka  (via spartan.spec).

user=> (require 'spartan.spec)
nil
user=> (require '[clojure.spec.alpha :as s])
nil
user=> (require '[clojure.core.specs.alpha :as cs])
nil
user=> (s/conform ::cs/defn-args '[foo [x y z]])
{:fn-name foo, :fn-tail [:arity-1 {:params {:params [[:local-symbol x] [:local-symbol y] [:local-symbol z]]}, :body [:body []]}]}

nice ... what is spartan.spec?

it's a drop-in alternative for clojure.spec.alpha which isn't in babashka, since it's alpha

it defines the clojure.spec.alpha namespaces when you require it

does it also work for CLJS? I could look all this up but just since you're here

if spartan.spec works for CLJS?

yes

you might remember that the core specs are missing at runtime for CLJS

yes, but those are the specs, not spec

so spartan.spec wouldn't solve that problem

the clojure.core.specs work with spartan.spec out of the box

spartan spec only rewrites clojure.spec.alpha , not clojure.core.specs.alpha

ah, so the unform bug is still there for example

is that bug in clojure.spec itself or in a spec in the core specs?

the latter

then yes

ok

changing the question ... why you would include spartan.spec rather than clojure.spec.alpha - it seems like a distinction without a difference

ie you still end up with alpha software

because the regular clojure.spec.alpha isn't compatible with babashka. It contains things like clojure.lang.Compiler/demunge which is a too low level thing to expose in babashka

ah ok

so the spartan.spec is well. more spartan 🙂

indeed, you get it :)

Also I wrote it when bb was only a few months old. It didn't yet have protocols. So I rewrote everything using regular maps ;)

I think if I would do it again, then I would have to only make a few changes

Wow:

/tmp/spec.alpha (master*) $ bb -cp src/main/clojure -e "(require '[clojure.spec.alpha :as s]) (prn (s/valid? int? 1)) (require '[clojure.spec.gen.alpha :as gen]) (gen/sample (s/gen int?))"
true
(0 -1 0 -2 -7 -1 -1 0 -7 -1)

I'll make a proper fork tomorrow, it seems I can almost drop spartan.spec

:male-cook::skin-tone-3: 😘

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