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dharrigan05:10:58

Good Morning!

RAMart06:10:56

Sorry, but I just have to share my happiness: I'm super happy that our company finally joined https://www.clojuriststogether.org! 🎉bananadance

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otfrom07:10:08

do you mean sending money to or having a project sponsored by? (and congrats either way)

RAMart07:10:31

Sending money. 💰

pez07:10:30

Good morning! A bit tired today. Because I enjoyed hacking on clojure-lsp last night. 😃

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raymcdermott09:10:04

I went to bed early last night scratching my head about how to round-trip the defn specs from clojure.core.specs.alpha

raymcdermott09:10:15

there is an open https://clojure.atlassian.net/browse/CLJ-2021 on spec that conform and unform don't round trip

raymcdermott09:10:18

🙏:skin-tone-3:

borkdude09:10:23

I wonder how you can go to bed early and sleep.. I usually go to bed late when confronted with such a problem 😁

RAMart09:10:08

He didn't say "sleep"...

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raymcdermott09:10:41

I like to stop when I have a problem at night cos I often waste time when tired. Changed gears, read a book. OK, listened to a book.

borkdude09:10:27

You're a sensible person

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raymcdermott09:10:04

You know that's not true

borkdude09:10:01

Bed driven development

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pez09:10:32

I am of the most non-sensible type and stay at it while my brain is blocked, my eyes bleeding, and the problem eludes any of my idiotic “solutions”.

raymcdermott09:10:41

Sleep driven development is best .... Rich also said this in one of his earlier talks. I haven't always done it but have learned through the bleeding eyes experiences 🙂

mpenet10:10:59

walking away for a while is often for the best (shower, sleep, run etc)

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lread12:10:27

mid grog noon

pez15:10:40

I like! Using it in Rich4Clojure https://github.com/PEZ/rich4clojure

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otfrom15:10:47

works for me given that I use lots of Rich comment blocks

otfrom15:10:06

I like having the tests in the same file as the code (even if it does make the file longer)

otfrom15:10:24

and I like that it runs every time I C-c C-k

otfrom15:10:12

it seems simple enough that at some point I'll overrun what it can do, but I wonder if that is far enough out that I'll not mind

otfrom16:10:17

may your gods go with you, compa

raymcdermott19:10:32

turns out that the fix for the round-trip of defn using conform / unform had a bug. @viebel fixed it today. It's been open in Clojure since 2016. Urgh. Also it doesn't work in CLJS cos those specs are only available to macros. So after encouragement by the wise men (@borkdude and @thheller) I ended up cutting and pasting them into my own ns. And now I have to go and sleep. I might get some actual work done tomorrow 🙂

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