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RAMart05:06:27

Oh Yeah! 🎶

kardan05:06:44

Good morning

ordnungswidrig06:06:05

Hello, friends.

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pez06:06:04

Greetings, European Clojurians!

jkxyz06:06:20

Morning!

jmayaalv07:06:46

Happy sunny day 🙂 ☀️

otfrom07:06:35

Just want to say again that this channel makes me consistently happy as we support each other through troubles and celebrate each others victories. I know it is a bit earnest, but I think it is worth recognising what is valuable and good in a community

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thomas08:06:50

I second that

thomas08:06:00

love you guys!

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pez08:06:53

It should totally be celebrated. I’ve gotten so much help and support from you people in this channel. Loving it. Loving you! ❤️

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reefersleep09:06:12

🎉🙌:hugging_face:

jasonbell10:06:45

Oh, I have to agree with bruce don’t I! 😬 It’s like the Trolley Problem but worse.

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thomas11:06:44

we love even love you @U0K1RLM99 😉

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ordnungswidrig12:06:04

In times (for me long times) of remote work this channel is a weird cross over of friends and (former) coworkers. so many awesome people :hugging_face:

otfrom12:06:57

even I ❤️ @U0K1RLM99 just don't tell him or the jokes won't work any more

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borkdude09:06:56

morning! 🥵

practicalli-johnny13:06:40

I've posted a message in #news-and-articles about the London Clojurians Open Collective if you know any companies or individuals interested in financially supporting the community, especially as our online meetups are reaching ever growing and international live audiences. Thank you.

reefersleep14:06:30

Good morning!

reefersleep14:06:47

I’m celebrating my son taking a poop in the potty for the first time 🥳

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orestis15:06:36

Wow that’s early!

reefersleep16:06:14

He’s been going on the toilet, with me holding him above it, since 2 months or so. He’s just gotten too strong, long and lively for that to be feasible anymore 😄

reefersleep16:06:03

Started doing it after learning about Elimination Communication (EC). He hated having a wet diaper, so it really improved his general mood.

orestis17:06:23

We tried EC in the early days and had moderate success but we couldn’t keep it up. So we gave up and we’ll start over.

orestis17:06:21

At 18 months she knows the concept of poop and potty and sometimes she will ask for it and sit and try but it looks like it’s still a game

reefersleep19:06:22

It’s not a full success here. Every time I change him, with or without helping him pee/defecate, there’s a risk that he’ll cry and/or scream. He’s never liked being changed. It’s disheartening.

reefersleep19:06:35

And there are many times where I can’t interpret his need to pee in time, mostly when he’s laying with his toys having fun. That’s no catastrophe, but it feels a bit silly after literally thousands of diaper changes. But, I just take off the wet diaper, offer him to pee (and he usually needs to), then put on a new one. I still have hopes that he’ll learn to sign when he needs the potty so that it becomes more straightforward, and I’m also hoping that he’ll be diaper free at an early age. But we’ll see 🙂

reefersleep20:06:53

Even if it’s not regular, it’s great that your girl sometimes can recognise and express her need. Fingers crossed that it’ll become more steady! 🤞 🤞

dharrigan14:06:55

Your parenting duties are practically complete.

reefersleep16:06:49

Weeeellll I’d like for him to be able to sign me when he wants to go potty, and to be able to sit on the potty by himself. I’d say we’ve got a ways to go yet 🙂 Also, crawling, walking, talking and all that. Presently, he can push himself backwards on the floor and rotate aimlessly, and shout drunkenly and blow raspberries and stuff like that

dharrigan18:06:04

Yup, sounds like your duties are complete. Job done 🙂

reefersleep20:06:36

Easier than I thought!

borkdude14:06:17

my sister-in-law's son also tells everyone which letter he pooped

borkdude14:06:38

but he can't read yet, so he's probably just making stuff up

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genRaiy14:06:06

can he count? pee is 1 poop is 2

borkdude14:06:17

tss, please start from 0

yes 2
borkdude14:06:48

we're not mathematicians here

genRaiy14:06:54

effluence a function that indexes from 1

genRaiy14:06:26

it's in the human.digest ns

borkdude14:06:33

(this was always the argument on my university between CS and math students)

thomas14:06:38

where was that @U04V15CAJ?

borkdude14:06:49

University of Twente

thomas14:06:19

must be after my time...

thomas14:06:43

or actually thinking about it... I didn't know that many CS people there.

borkdude14:06:56

what did you study there?

thomas14:06:00

I did electrical engineering at the Hogeschool.. but lived on campus for a while

thomas14:06:09

but that was a long time ago....

borkdude14:06:32

well, it wasn't yesterday for me either,

borkdude14:06:42

although it doesn't feel that long ago still

thomas14:06:10

last century for me (almost)

borkdude14:06:46

I started there in 99

thomas14:06:01

haven't been in Enschede since 2006 I think.

borkdude14:06:24

I still come there every few years, but not that often

thomas14:06:40

I started in 94 and finished aug 2000. so last few months didn't really count as I was in the UK at that time.

borkdude14:06:06

(binding [*out* potty] ...)

genRaiy14:06:31

can *out* be bound to two channels?

borkdude14:06:16

a dynamic var can only be bound to one thing per thread, just create another thread...

genRaiy14:06:48

if you bind potty to just one output channel it's a bug

borkdude14:06:23

it's quite accurate, only one person can "print" into the potty at a time

genRaiy14:06:58

yeah but they can do so from two printers 🙂

borkdude14:06:42

(defrecord Potty [out0 out1])

genRaiy14:06:20

I really want to see the linter for that 🙂

borkdude14:06:19

human.core:14:30: unused potty

borkdude14:06:32

human.core:14:50: invalid arity in call to ->Potty

lread14:06:06

remember to flush out!

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genRaiy14:06:51

I still feel like the args should be pos-int? not nat-int? 😉

genRaiy14:06:08

streams and logs .... make your own jokes now

borkdude14:06:16

flush on new ... line

borkdude14:06:55

cljs.user=> *flush-on-newline*
true

genRaiy14:06:34

IMHO flush should be used as the close function and then the potty can bindings can be done using open-with

genRaiy14:06:19

[ yes I have had two kids so can speak as a domain expert ... don't flush during the operation ]

borkdude14:06:54

should we use locking then?

lread14:06:27

what about dirty eviction?

genRaiy14:06:44

locking

genRaiy14:06:23

dirty evictions are the norm

borkdude14:06:31

maybe we can also call System/gc just to make sure no "garbage" is left after flushing

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genRaiy14:06:35

not x-platform but yeah

borkdude14:06:48

CLJS is only for front-end

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borkdude14:06:39

I mean, who wants to be called back on the toilet?

genRaiy14:06:13

yeah, this is a much better and more realistic version of callback hell than you usually get on conference talks

otfrom16:06:09

and I was saying such nice things about this community earlier today. Now it has all gone to 💩

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otfrom16:06:46

@reefersleep congrats on the achievement 🙂

genRaiy17:06:46

🙂 kids do that to ya