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simongray06:05:34

Good morning

pez06:05:44

Good morning. I thought it would feel more special a day after having reported my first bug on Java, but it feels like a perfectly normal day.

Gulli07:05:51

Which bug?

simongray07:05:58

@pez As in you raised an issue with Oracle…?

simongray07:05:53

European Lisp Symposium conference is live now: https://www.twitch.tv/elsconf

simongray07:05:03

There’s a Clojure talk at 11:30

pez07:05:01

Haha, sorry for the lack of details. Yes, raised an issue with Oracle. Here’s some context: https://github.com/BetterThanTomorrow/calva/issues/1162#issuecomment-830920272 Also see the #calva channel. This one is stopping us from making the Getting Started REPL as “for everyone” as we want to do. Super frustrating.

simongray08:05:53

What a strange error

pez08:05:55

It is also very strange that it would not have been reported tons of times already.

borkdude08:05:03

Maybe there aren't tons of Windows users on Oracle JDK 16 relying on quoted strings as command line args in the world.

pez08:05:51

I am trying to recruit more of them. 😃

pez08:05:51

I think this was introduced with JDK 15, which would make it a bit more strange with the not reported.

borkdude08:05:18

Have you tested it with JDK 15?

pez08:05:26

Not yet. There are Getting Started REPL issue reports indicating this is the case.

dominicm09:05:04

This whole thing seems weird coming from linux shells - shouldn't this be the job of cmd.exe to decide how to invoke exec?

dominicm09:05:58

https://superuser.com/a/962805 > there's nothing that will escape " within quotes for argument passing. hmm

dominicm09:05:29

So, maybe not a java bug, but instead Windows behaving as expected @pez?

pez10:05:11

Windows escaping is totally bonkers, for sure. I think there are as many as seven different variants of it. Which is why at first I went out on that snipe hunt and almost never returned from it. But in the end, I see it like this: The Oracle Java installer installs two java.exe, and those two behave differently. @borkdude had a theory that maybe the misbehaving one is a wrapper and that the double quotes get lost in the quoting inside that wrapper. (Or something like that. 😄 )

borkdude11:05:32

New website for babashka: https://babashka.org

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pez11:05:37

Wow, that is beautiful, @borkdude!

simongray11:05:45

@jasonbell isn’t that just dissoc?

jasonbell11:05:58

Well I suppose it is.

simongray11:05:17

@borkdude Looks nice, but what’s up with the massive bottom margin? 😛

borkdude11:05:10

I think that's related to that gradient thing, but you'll have to ask @buoyantair, this is not my strength :)

simongray11:05:30

Ah, it’s because she’s rotating a div containing the background image to create the effect.

borkdude11:05:33

Feel free to propose or PR improvements at https://github.com/babashka/babashka.github.io

pez11:05:25

Maybe add a section about that it has a growing and very active community. I mean, that #babashka channel is on fire!

pez11:05:36

I can understand if you don’t want to inform about that it has the most active and supporting maintainer in existence, but that should actually be mentioned as well.

borkdude11:05:38

Do you mean under features, or as a separate "Community" section?

pez11:05:41

I was thinking as a feature.

borkdude11:05:27

@pez ok, take another look

pez11:05:15

You are fast!

pez11:05:01

We are also sharing ideas on how to leverage. I think that fits too.

pez11:05:18

> The https://app.slack.com/client/T03RZGPFR/CLX41ASCS has quickly summoned more than 500 members. We are sharing ideas, and helping each other out with questions and issues.https://github.com/babashka/babashka/discussions can be used to reach out for any topic if you are more into slower moving communication.

borkdude12:05:18

@pez I now moved "Community" to its own thing

pez12:05:15

Paradoxical maybe, I think it loses visibility. Both work fine, though.

solf12:05:01

@borkdude the contribute menu is making things too large for mobile

borkdude12:05:13

Thanks, made an issue

borkdude12:05:33

Feel free to contribute if you feel like it to this website

ordnungswidrig21:05:00

Good morning! 😛

otfrom22:05:42

I said good day 😄

pez22:05:23

Good morning!