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dharrigan05:03:04

Good Morning!

synthomat06:03:41

Good morning!

pez07:03:54

God morgon! Thanks for the support yesterday. Swimming over to the deep end of the pool like that was a bit scary.

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orestis08:03:17

Was there a recording @pez? Public speaking doesn't really get easier but you get better at preparing...

simongray08:03:48

@pez did you get any interesting feedback during or after the talk?

ouvasam08:03:36

Good morning!

pez08:03:58

It was recorded and will be put up on Youtube by the company hosting the meetup (they’ll also be publishing clips on LinkedIn). Won’t be of much value for most of you, because it was in Swedish. 😃

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ordnungswidrig08:03:00

Isn’t danish close enough to swedish? 😈

pez08:03:58

@simongray: Clojure stirred up a lot of curiosity yesterday. It all got much more interactive than I had expected. Most of what I had prepared was never shown and instead it became more of a Q&A with a mix of verbal and live coding answers. Very fun and at least one of the particpants I am sure will be trying it out. He was ready to throw out Swift and XCode on the spot almost. 😃

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ordnungswidrig08:03:27

That’s my experience with clojure presentations. 🙂

ordnungswidrig08:03:44

It always becomes a “let me show that in the repl” kind of format

pez08:03:19

Haha, that’s what happened.

pez08:03:50

The languages are very close, @ordnungswidrig. Spoken Swedish is hard for most Danes, though, unless they have had quite a lot of exposure to it. It’s vice versa too. We often switch to English when we do business. Haha.

simongray08:03:44

I grew up in Helsingør so I've had a decent amount of exposure to Swedish of the Scanian variety, but I still need Swedes to speak slowly. Written Swedish is always easier (and written Norwegian is basically the same as Danish with a few cutesy Norwegian words thrown in).

mccraigmccraig09:03:01

it's similar for written danish for a norsk speaker, but spoken danish sounds like it's underwater 😬

simongray09:03:04

Kamelåså?

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mccraigmccraig09:03:50

lol, eg måtte sjekke urbandictionary 🙂 ... eg er engelsk, men eg bodde i norge for en stund siden

slipset12:03:13

Kamelåså er fantastisk.

slipset12:03:27

“Vi forstår hinanden ikke”

mccraigmccraig12:03:41

oh, that's brilliant.. found it on youtube

reefersleep19:03:32

hehehe kamelåså

pez08:03:05

Oh, I’ve assumed from your name that you’re Anglo-Saxian. 😃

pez08:03:41

I can assure you that I don’t speak slowly when I get fired up like I got yesterday. 😃

reefersleep19:03:38

Good thing that Youtube has speed control! (I’m serious; I sometimes watch videos at 1.5x or 2x speed)

simongray08:03:47

My dad is English, that's why I have the English-sounding name, but I'm Danish

simongray08:03:11

Haha, I'll probably wanna check it out anyway

pez08:03:13

I should practice that.

reefersleep19:03:27

Got the same problem. It’s hard to change, even though I’m painfully aware.

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pez08:03:41

I’ll let you all know when it’s up. (After I have checked it out myself, I might also never mention it again.)

ordnungswidrig08:03:21

@simongray you can always slow down the video 😛

simongray08:03:11

actually not a bad idea

pez09:03:47

The session was two hours of things you already know much better than I do, so slowing it down sounds a bit awful. ¯\(ツ)

joelkuiper11:03:27

goedemiddag 😛

joelkuiper11:03:33

I was unaware of that convention 😛

borkdude11:03:37

good morning btw! :)

joelkuiper11:03:44

good morning 🙂

otfrom11:03:20

observe is perhaps too strong

otfrom11:03:28

fall into the silly habit of?

borkdude11:03:59

no, no we are following this religiously because it's in the channel topic ;P

borkdude11:03:19

this is a cult after all

otfrom11:03:43

cool, do I get to be a heretic then? I look forward to being denounced.

borkdude11:03:54

we love heretics

otfrom11:03:23

I might start saying Good Day, and when I get called out on it replying with this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaoySOGlZ_U

borkdude11:03:53

LOL, good morning sir

borkdude11:03:35

But you are right, I changed my wording into "also accept", we should after all be accepting and loving community in these hard times :P

borkdude11:03:18

btw the link in the channel topic/description doesn't work anymore (who is the admin around here?)

javahippie11:03:20

I guess everything can edit that

val_waeselynck13:03:02

Let me know what you think

borkdude13:03:42

I think just manually def-ing wherever I need to capture something for debugging still is sufficient for me without additional tools https://blog.michielborkent.nl/2017/05/25/inline-def-debugging/

borkdude13:03:05

And besides that, there are some trends towards tap and visual tools like portal or reveal but honestly I still stick with very basic debugging

borkdude13:03:28

nifty macro though :)

pez14:03:06

I love the macro. Will abuse it heavily.

otfrom17:03:00

have you quit twitter yet @jasonbell?

jasonbell17:03:13

I wasn’t planning to. I just a headline this morning that [some star I’m not really aware of] was “announcing” they were quitting Twitter.

jasonbell17:03:22

Not what I’d consider news.

otfrom18:03:35

I'd be straight onto The News Letter and Ulster Tatler if you left twitter

reefersleep19:03:38

Good thing that Youtube has speed control! (I’m serious; I sometimes watch videos at 1.5x or 2x speed)