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otfrom10:09:10

@raymcdermott I look at that pic and go 1. ooh pretty 2. ooh ticks

genRaiy10:09:40

yeah, it's messy but I enjoy a tick hunt 🙂 ... I go that way on Sundays to avoid the loose dog hassling mountain bikers on the more popular trails

ordnungswidrig10:09:14

I hope you all got your TBE shots.

genRaiy10:09:39

he does, I might need a boost though

otfrom10:09:57

I like seeing deer around here, esp when they are on the beach gazing out at the waves, but I could do with less risk of Lyme disease

ordnungswidrig10:09:54

At least you can treat Lyme disease when discovered early. Do they to a lab check on tikcs in the UK?

otfrom10:09:03

they are getting better at staying on top of it in Scotland at least (I also see warnings up in some of the woods, tho not on the range I go to where I know there are deer)

dominicm11:09:57

They're quite rare in England I think?

dominicm11:09:19

They seemed to be last time I looked into this, after discovering them for the first time in France.

jasonbell12:09:39

@otfrom @ordnungswidrig Have you seen this, we’ve all got one.

jasonbell13:09:17

Lyme caught early enough, three weeks of double dose Doxycilin usually does the trick. If it’s left too long then it’s a nightmare.

otfrom13:09:55

I need to get one

genRaiy13:09:59

yeah, I have never got a tick nor has the dog from our wanderings so far. We used to have cats and they got them so they are around these here parts.

plexus13:09:08

for dogs apparently you can give them something so their blood effectively becomes poisonous for ticks. Don't know the details but I know my buddy does that, if he does find ticks on his dog they're already dead

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jasonbell13:09:33

Dogs and Lyme are better catered for than humans and Lyme as it stands. The blood tests are debateable at best, Elisa test full spectrum has a 57% false positive rate and don’t even get me started on bee sting therapy. It’s like ME/CFS plenty of sufferers but not much in the way of research money being sent to it.

jasonbell14:09:07

The Lyme charities are all about awareness, not treatment. The number of GoFundMe pages of folk with no where else to turn is shocking.

jasonbell14:09:17

I’ll get off my box now 🙂

kardan14:09:28

I run in the forest, get ticks from now and then. Had Lyme disease this spring. Got some drugs and was fine

ordnungswidrig14:09:07

Yeah, got it was detected. I know people who suffer since years because of an undetected infection.

jasonbell14:09:14

@kardan If it’s caught early enough then it’s not a huge problem. Long term it’s a nightmare.

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kardan14:09:18

I have a few friends who had it, been very uncomplicated. But think key is to get treatment quickly

ordnungswidrig14:09:53

In germany they would prescribe our antibiotics even without a diagnisis when you might have gotten a tick bite.

ordnungswidrig14:09:10

(It’s a little more nuanced but you get the idea)

kardan14:09:59

I do a routine after each run. Full body search. These days I know my body more than I would like to 🤕

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kardan14:09:09

This year have been a good year for the little bastards. Would guess I have removed 15+

ordnungswidrig14:09:33

@kardan Skin cancer also will have a hard time on your body.

kardan14:09:43

I do have horses and stuff on the path towards the proper forest. I blame that section for the ticks to not stay away from my heaven

otfrom15:09:13

Mars is so old hat

dominicm16:09:20

Title interpretation: creatures on venus also create climate change

otfrom17:09:47

Venusian farts fire up atmosphere

mpenet18:09:12

About ticks, they also carry TBE which is worse than lyme. You can get vaccinated against it

mpenet18:09:06

It's quite common to get vaccinated against it in sweden for instance

ordnungswidrig19:09:42

@mpenet yeah, I had advertised to get TBE shots.

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genRaiy20:09:55

Big dog goodnight

val_waeselynck22:09:48

Good night as well

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