Good morning

Morning

Morning

Good morning!

morning

morning

if max returns "the greatest of the nums"

(max 42 43)
=> 43

Not quite understanding if this is a joke or not, but on a related issue

user=> (Math/abs -7)
7
user=> (= (Math/abs -7) -7)
false
user=> Integer/MIN_VALUE
-2147483648
user=> (= (Math/abs Integer/MIN_VALUE) Integer/MIN_VALUE)
true
user=> WTF??
Syntax error compiling at (REPL:0:0).
Unable to resolve symbol: WTF?? in this context
user=>

morning

@raymcdermott I presume you know where your towel is?

morning

@slipset yes, it's a joke

I like that (REPL:0:0)has wow! eyes

Java docs for abs say "Note that if the argument is equal to the value of `Integer.MIN_VALUE`, the most negative representable `int` value, the result is that same value, which is negative."

so not all Java programmers have great abs ... another joke there, cos abs is also a six pack (muscles not beer) thing

This reminds me of another fun thing I discovered some time back

So a comparator is basically a thing that returns positive, 0, negative

So a trick one could use is that - is a nice comparator for numbers.

Now, since - is a function in Clojure, and functions in Clojure implement the Comparator interface, you can (sort-by - [3 4 1 2])

Which works great until you hit numbers that are greater than Integer/MAX_VALUE

And the reason for that is here https://github.com/clojure/clojure/blob/master/src/jvm/clojure/lang/AFunction.java#L61

@slipset what about Long/compare?

The point was not really how to sort numbers, but the fact that the approach with - works for some numbers but not for all numbers (and you could argue that I should know that not all numbers are equal (in some sense) when it comes to programming)

what is your point? 😝

maybe it is this: edge cases abound

What? I have to have a point?

I guess that yes, edge cases, and stuff that does the wrong thing instead of failing miserably.

I much prefer stuff that does the right thing and fails miserably

@borkdude OT is what this channel is for 😉 https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/C6QH853H8/p1599493444012700

I love it that this channel is really off topic since it's not called #off-topic :)

but then we'd be on topic

wait

🤯

oh, I see what you did there

exactly

I hated trying to use some emacs things on windows

tho at least JDEE worked

tramp wouldn't tho for some reason to do w/a lack of pipes

@otfrom I've been experimenting with that too. I run emacs in WSL2

how has it been going?

do pipes work?

Everything works in WSL2, since it's real linux

I'll be giving a small presentation at wslconf.dev this week

woah, crazy 😄

That there's a whole conf for WSL, that is.

has linux won? or is this just more embrace, extend, extinguish?

Conspiracy theory: Yeah, M$ are definitely aiming for extinguish right now.

I fear what github has done to remembering how we got the freedom to change the software we use

@dominicm they are certainly in the embrace phase

I think Canonical has won in that more people are using Ubuntu. I think Microsoft has won by winning over Mac people from expensive hardware to a dev setup that works equally well.

@otfrom You're right. 😄

They're trying to get Linux to transition from mailing lists to GitHub atm.

apparently emojified emails are the reason people won't step up to be maintainers

😂

not b/c Linus is a git

I thought it was because GitHub extinguished the distributed nature of Git, and then was confused that people didn't want to move over...

They now have a backup in the arctic, so what could go wrong?

after his rant, drew wrote an actually interesting article about distribution for linux dev: https://drewdevault.com/2020/09/02/Linux-development-is-profoundly-distributed.html

I pay for sourcehut, don’t use it but I do pay for it