@alexmiller: I just realized I didn't document the new :load-ns opt to deftype/defrecord in my patch for CLj-1208

should I open a new ticket or reopen that one?

you mean docstring?

yeah

new ticket - I will just pull it up into 1.8 as that seems important

I'd also welcome a para for the http://clojure.org/datatypes page too

ok -- I'm not on my dev laptop rn so I can't make a patch, I'll just open a ticket and handle that tomorrow

sure, np

@alexmiller: CLJ-1823

thanks!

Hi, there. Is it known/okay that & gets silently bound in this case:

(defprotocol Foo
  (foo [this & b]))
=> Foo
(deftype T []
  Foo
  (foo [o & b] [o & b]))
=> user.T
(foo (->T) 1 2)
=> [#object[user.T 0x7e01f15e "[email protected]"] 1 2]

There is a clj ticket for this too

It is known and not ok imo :)

@alexmiller: can you close CLJ-1773? (it's just marked as resolved)

@alexmiller: will search for the ticket, thanks. BTW, I don't get why it'd be bad to be able to have variadics in protocols (one day)?

protocols create Java interfaces as well as Clojure functions and that creates some complications

potentially resolvable complications

alright; do you see use cases come often?

it comes up occasionally

http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-1661 is one of the & protocol tickets

http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-1024 is another, seems like they are dupes

I guess 1661 is the one. there's some weird history some of which is on the mailing list. I marked it triaged but that ticket needs some work though.

@bronsa

@bronsa done

thanks

It is not evident if someone is onto it, I'll be checking maybe, missing Java a bit ^^

the ticket description needs work to better capture the problem and approach

feel free to do so

prob good to check whether the patch still applies too

@alexmiller: tbh I never understood the position clojure has wrt java varargs. there is bytecode annotation for varargs so clojure could handle java varargs automatically rather than as a single arg (and in the same vein, compile vararg protocol methods into java varargs)

unless there's some impl detail I'm forgetting

I've never talked to Rich about it, but my guess is that all those ends were just never tied down

Well, a warning would be cool until the odds are settled =]

@bronsa: By the way, what's your status with regard to tools.reader releases? I put the "alpha" label on tools.namespace 0.3.0-alpha1 because it depends on tools.reader 0.10.0-alpha3

@stuartsierra: I just forgot to release 0.10.0

thanks, I'm launching the hudson job now

@bronsa: hah! No worries, thanks

0.10.0 is released

yay