Clojurians Log v2

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Repost: looking for devs in the Edmonton, Alberta area who may be interested in a meetup.

@flyboarder: off topic, but if you pass by Vancouver, stop at our weekly hacknight ok? :)

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hey guys … does anyone know of any canadian pure player Clojure shop please ? I already know kirasystems and circle CI but I’d really be interested in knowing more … 🙂 thanks in advance

@richiardiandrea will do!

@kaffein could you elaborate on >canadian pure player Clojure shop

I mean doing exclusively Clojure development ^^ @flyboarder

We are at about 95% right now

http://degree9.io

😄 nice nice thanks you so much for the info

(with that said, much of it is clj/cljs the last 5% is powershell)

@flyboarder do you guys have difficulty in recruiting clojure developers ?

haha if powershell is only 5% that’s okay … the opposite would have been a little bit problematic ^^

i’m joking of course

locally yes, remotely no, this is why we are starting regular meetups, trying to build this community

lol^

oh so you have a majority of remote workers then … okay I got it

The problem with remote workers isnt finding amazing people, it’s finding ones who are capable of working on our vision with less oversight, that is difficult in a startup and being able to pivot as often as we do

yeah for a startup I guess you are right : the culture is really something you have to live within …

right and that makes it very difficult for us to find developers with the skill set and the passion

I definitely understand what you mean

I am based in Paris and let me tell you that the problem we are facing is even bigger : we can’t make clojure take off

and it’s also a very cultural problem

I think that’s because I.T is lead by non-I.T people and those people are only concerned about how to recruit developers to perpetuate the investment made in the product/service

so Clojure is considered as too “exotic” and they do prefer to invest in having Plain Old Java Devs 😄 instead of venturing into the unknown

yes breaking IT culture is something that needs to be pushed more, too political makes for a bad system

we focus in cloud automation, and that is a common issue we encounter with larger clients is changing how they run their IT politically, you need a matching business model to your IT model

less of a monolithic system we build and maintain until the next generation makes us obsolete, more an explorative expanding solution

+100

our I.T culture is definitely not sustainable :’( …

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@flyboarder my experience working for a couple remote startups follows this distinction pretty well

http://paul.stadig.name/2013/07/remote-distributed.html

Yeah iv seen that before

I'd have to agree

I have seen that too, very nice article

Working remotely too for a startup outside Canada btw

Here in the Vancouver area not many Clojure adopters

Very interesting article thanks

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