@dnolen From your talk about how you do stuff at Vouch it sounded like you create components in JavaScript, style and test in Storybook and then you use them from ClojureScript with Re-frame. My question then is; did you mix in any styles at all from ClojureScript (Higher level, like screens or global ones)?

no styling in ClojureScript at all

some small global tweeks for Android vs. iOS screens - that's it

ClojureScript is only the app logic - nothing else

Is that a strict tech decision or also a staffing one? I.e., if the universe dropped a dozen CLJS-fluent designers in your lap, would you still do that just because of the JS design tooling?

really kind of both

after doing this way it's pretty clear to me writing the components in ClojureScript is pretty low value

Good to know, thanks

if you think about it

writing pure components in JavaScript more or removes all the the things that I don't like about JavaScript

there's no interesting mutation, there's no interesting logic

and we do no data manipulation at all

so all the places where JavaScript would just be horrible is eliminated

it's glorified markup at this point

and interesting as hiccup is - this is not the reason why I write Clojure(Script)

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. For me on a solo project I like the lack of context-switching, but I can totally see on a bigger team/app that you have to context switch from design to logic more anyway.

right this is about managing a team

for much simpler projects there's nothing wrong w/ doing it all in ClojureScript - perhaps if the situation was different

I would have tried much harder to allow us bundle the ClojureScript so it runs Storybook

I'm sure that can be figured out

but for those wanting to grow a Clojure(Scirpt) company this is also an interesting way to widen the net if you're looking for devs and you're in the mobile app game

All good points. Thanks