and you've run jack-in-clj?

yes

and has it silently failed again?

It asked the ‘sibling’ question and then…. nothing.

Correct.

how long have you waited?

3 minutes?

Maybe I should start the back end in a terminal, and just connect….

do you see any buffers open? I have an *nrepl-server clojure/my-app ... buffer

maybe but it should work

can you check in *Messages* buffer for any stacktraces or errors from the startup ?

So ‘connect’ acts like it works, and I have a repl buffer, but it’s warning me that I don’t have cider-nrepl, and the buffer doesn’t have cider functionality.

Let me check the buffer….

No errors at all.

yeah. if you go the connect route your are responsible for ensuring that the middleware are set up

i'd for sure go with the cider-jack-in version

ok let’s try again…

cider-jack-in-cljs first

Select shadow, then the app build, then visit the ‘active builds’ page. So far so good.

Now cider-jack-in

Connect using sibling, Y

command to use: lein

‘Starting server…’

and no error-in-process or anything like that?

see this? [nREPL] Direct connection to localhost:36703 established

[nREPL] Starting server via /usr/local/bin/npx shadow-cljs -d nrepl:0.6.0 -d cider/piggieback:0.4.2 -d cider/cider-nrepl:0.23.0 server
[nREPL] server started on 7002
[nREPL] Establishing direct connection to localhost:7002 ...
[nREPL] Direct connection to localhost:7002 established
Visit '' in a browser? (y or n) y
A session with the same parameters exists (bank/bank1:localhost:7002).  You can connect a sibling instead.  Proceed? (y or n) y
[nREPL] Starting server via /Users/jmckitrick/bin/lein update-in :dependencies conj \[nrepl\ \"0.6.0\"\] -- update-in :plugins conj \[cider/cider-nrepl\ \"0.23.0\"\] -- repl :headless :host localhost
Mark set [2 times]
line-move-visual: End of buffer [8 times]
line-move-visual: End of buffer

That’s my *Messages*

and how long did you wait?

Still waiting….

run /Users/jmckitrick/bin/lein update-in :dependencies conj \[nrepl\ \"0.6.0\"\] -- update-in :plugins conj \[cider/cider-nrepl\ \"0.23.0\"\] -- repl :headless :host localhost (the exact same command) from a terminal and see if you get more output

Warning: implicit middleware found: cider-nrepl.plugin/middleware

what's your lein --version?

2.8.3

try upgrading lein upgrade 2.9.1

ok

So CIDER still won’t start the CLJ REPL, but in the terminal I don’t get the warning about middleware.

and you're on 2.9.1?

of lein

did you delete the shadow-cljs key from the project.clj file?

Yes and yes.

Now, for what it’s worth…

can you try this?

~/p/c/my-app ❯❯❯ lein update-in :dependencies conj \[nrepl\ \"0.6.0\"\] -- update-in :plugins conj \[cider/cider-nrepl\ \"0.23.0\"\] -- repl 
nREPL server started on port 34237 on host 127.0.0.1 - 
REPL-y 0.4.3, nREPL 0.6.0
Clojure 1.10.1
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.5+10-post-Ubuntu-0ubuntu1.1
    Docs: (doc function-name-here)
          (find-doc "part-of-name-here")
  Source: (source function-name-here)
 Javadoc: (javadoc java-object-or-class-here)
    Exit: Control+D or (exit) or (quit)
 Results: Stored in vars *1, *2, *3, an exception in *e

user=> (+ 1 1)
2
user=> 

If I start CLJ first it works.

oh interesting. let me try tat

So it seems I can start one or the other, but not both.

[nREPL] Starting server via /home/dan/projects/node/bin/npx shadow-cljs -d nrepl:0.6.0 -d cider/piggieback:0.4.2 -d cider/cider-nrepl:0.23.0 server
[nREPL] server started on 7002
[nREPL] Establishing direct connection to localhost:7002 ...
[nREPL] Direct connection to localhost:7002 established
Visit '' in a browser? (y or n) n
A session with the same parameters exists (clojure/my-app:localhost:7002).  You can connect a sibling instead.  Proceed? (y or n) y
[nREPL] Starting server via /home/dan/bin/lein update-in :dependencies conj \[nrepl\ \"0.6.0\"\] -- update-in :plugins conj \[cider/cider-nrepl\ \"0.23.0\"\] -- repl :headless :host localhost
[nREPL] server started on 36361
[nREPL] Establishing direct connection to localhost:36361 ...
[nREPL] Direct connection to localhost:36361 established

that's cljs and then clj

and you're saying y to the sibling question?

Yes, CIDER 20200120.711

Yes, I am

Wow, that stinks. I mean, I have had it running like that before, but not recently, and not with shadow, IIRC.

What luminus template params did you use?

i think it was lein new luminus my-app +shadow

or shadow-cljs. don't remember

Let me try one from scratch again.

Rats. I give up.

i'm really sorry. would you like to try screensharing or something? that sucks that you can't get it going

i can jump on a zoom and work with you if you have the time. or tomorrow if that's better for you

That would totally work for me.

I’m free for the next few hours anytime.

Cool. In about an hour? I’ve got to do lunch first

No problem. Thanks!