I made a screencast making a game with Clojure and ClojureScript: http://parens-of-the-dead.com hopefully it'll show how quick and fun it can be to use our language of choice.

totally awesome

Clojure + Zombies == Win

@magnars: I loved it. when will the next part be released?

glad to hear that I'm aiming for a release every weekend until the game is done.

nice!

magnars: that's awesome, do people need to have previous experience with the language?

it is not a tutorial by any means - I'm moving at a brisk pace. It does show how quickly you can get stuff done with a powerful language tho.

magnars: powerful language? hm that's sounds kinda vague. Don't you think?

measure by what exactly?

"stuff" is vague too. That's fine - I'm not here to provide scientific proofs. I'm just here to entertain and hopefully inspire.

magnars: got it

@cored: have you read "out of the tar pit"?

sveri: nop

http://shaffner.us/cs/papers/tarpit.pdf

tranchis: thanks

until page 20 more or less, the rest is not really necessary

@cored: Well then, go ahead, one of the best papers I think on the topic of power or, better, the opposite and then come back and answer the question yourself 😉

sveri:cool

@magnars: Have you played Zombies!!! the board game? It’s a great game http://www.twilightcreationsinc.com/en/boardgames/zombies.html

while I have quite the sizable boardgame collection, I haven't had a chance to play Zombies!!! yet. Thanks for the tip

@jonas: I think my favourite boardgame at the moment is Catacombs https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/57390/catacombs - which also features Zombies, but not as prominently.

@magnars: Looks great!

magnars: did you do the art yourself? really polished.

The web design on http://www.parens-of-the-dead.com is done by a friend. The pictures on the tiles is google image search tho.

Yes, was referring to the web / social presence stuff — your friend did a great job

Observing your workflow in those screencasts is very helpful to me, thanks for making them!

glad to hear that, thanks

@magnars: awesome videos! some of the most fluid workflow i’ve seen, certainly inspire me to pimp and master my emacs further

one thing noticed in first video is the use of dissoc in your lifecycle - that’ll actually downgrade to a regular map without the lifecycle

not a problem with how you’re using it, but probably better not to spread anti patterns - heard that stuart sierra shames antipatterns on his blog so a bad combination 😉

oh, that is excellent feedback - I'll add that to a clean-up episode for sure. Thanks! How should this be done then?

(assoc this :server nil)

Now I'm curious. Why is dissoc worse than assoc nil?

dissoc on a record returns a map

assoc nil returns the record

and this is why people like type systems...

I see... Good to know!

anyone knows the reason to keep this divergent behaviors on records?

i think the idea is that there’s no guarantee that (dissoc k my-record) won’t dissoc one of the record’s ‘core fields'

@andrewhr: https://github.com/clojure/clojure/blob/6f4a49b9618e63ad24df430ea7a48830958f9c58/src/clj/clojure/core_deftype.clj#L226-L229 Fields can’t be removed from a class so if a base field is disassociated from the record the data can’t be represented as such record anymore

well there you go

@juhoteperi: makes pretty much sense... thanks!

what do you guys think about the book Living Clojure ?

you should buy 5 copies

why 5

?

I guess they are so awesome that you end up literally eating the books

why not 5?

alexmiller: because ...

alexmiller: you are totally right, ordering

@magnars: That's some sick emacs kung fu! I'm jealous of your workflow

@magnars: Nice workflow indeed. Are you using slamhound to add missing namespaces, or something else?

Seems like it's clj-refactor.el ... well, I'll stick with slamhound in my vim, which is awesome, but slower

@magnars: I wish you had filmed you keyboard while doing this

hehe, thanks for the kind words you should know it didn't go so smooth on the first attempt. I did all the coding for an episode in one take, so, well, I had to restart over a few times.

https://github.com/magnars/.emacs.d

i’d never seen ido-vertical-mode, might have to try that

I was nearly able to implement resolve-missing using refactor-nrepl in Vim: https://github.com/Deraen/vim-cider/compare/38a79fa63ddc5c01afba0feddb502ed5bb782799...master Just needs a way to modify ns form