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seeg06:06:52

great idea with the slack group simple_smile

gjnoonan08:06:24

@socksy: it appears so, I will investigate. Thanks

gjnoonan08:06:48

@socksy: it appears slackโ€™s api is down, I canโ€™t get to the admin setting either

socksy08:06:54

right, well, weโ€™ll try again later simple_smile Cheers!

gjnoonan09:06:37

@socksy: fixed ๐Ÿ‘ thanks for raising the issue

slipset09:06:10

A question arose during a coffee-run, from which language do clojure(script) developers come from?

socksy09:06:48

in general, or the developers of the language?

slipset09:06:08

in general, as in people developing their stuff in Clojure(script)

slipset09:06:33

not people developing Clojure(script) the languages

robert-stuttaford09:06:57

used closurelib before Cljs, and Actionscript before that

sandbags10:06:42

I came to Clojure from Ruby

quamen10:06:41

Ruby, Iโ€™m still learning Clojure though along with a few other languages

sveri10:06:46

C -> JAVA -> Django | PHP | javascript-> JAVA -> Scala -> clojure / clojurescript (plus a multitude of other things I did from time to time)

niwinz10:06:06

C/C++ -> Python -> Clojure(Script)

isaac10:06:10

C->Python->Java->Clojure(Script)

itrillian10:06:57

Actionscript|PHP->Python->C++->Java->Clojure(Script)

mdiin10:06:15

Perl -> Java -> Scala -> Haskell -> Clojure(Script)

mdiin10:06:38

(+ some Ruby along the way)

slipset10:06:44

Well, actually Perl -> Java(Script) -> Clojure

acron10:06:00

C++ -> C# -> Python -> Clojure

wiruzx10:06:35

Java -> Objective-C -> Swift -> Clojure

kestrel710:06:21

Basic -> Sculptor 4GL -> C -> C++ -> Delphi -> Java -> Ruby -> Clojure / Clojurescript

gtsiftsis10:06:34

C# -> Ruby -> Clojure (Ruby still main lang)

agile_geek10:06:30

Basic->various assembly langs->Fortran->COBOL->Powerbuilder->Java->Clojure with a little bit of C#, C++, JS, etc. thrown in for good measure (that list probably reveals my age too!)

gjnoonan11:06:35

BASIC -> C/ Assembly ->Perl -> PHP -> Javascript ->Ruby -> -Go | Clojure .. Thow in bash script too I guess .. Still using Go, Javascript and Ruby, and maintaining legacy PHP applications, use C occasionally

gjnoonan11:06:52

Used Smalltalk, but nothing in Production

gjnoonan11:06:12

Have played around with swift, but again nothing in production

nek11:06:20

Pascal -> PHP -> ActionScript 1,2,3 -> a little bit of Ruby -> Haxe -> JavaScript -> ClojureScript Also a little bit of Racket along the way for studying basics of PLT

sveri11:06:37

And why does everyone stick with clj/cljs?

chris11:06:23

It's fun/an exciting space to be in

ppold11:06:39

Actionscript 3 -> Javascript -> Python -> Clojurescript

slipset11:06:56

sveri: in here you only meet the people who are stuck

nek11:06:30

@ppold: high five!

ppold11:06:19

@nek: yay

ppold11:06:23

What got me interested in clojure(script) was core.async, but then stayed for everything else!

nek11:06:56

haha simple_smile me too.. plus built in immutable data structures

ppold11:06:25

immutable persistent structures all the way! thatโ€™s actually the first thing I mention before lisp and functional programming!

sveri11:06:26

@slipset: Yea, that's why I asked that question and not, why they went away from it ๐Ÿ˜„

ska11:06:10

Pascal -> C -> Emacs Lisp -> C -> Tcl/tk -> Perl -> (C,C++,Perl,Ruby) -> Java,Perl -> Common Lisp -> Clojure plus some Python, Matlab and probably others, who know. Decidedly not linear

andrewhr12:06:42

Java -> Ruby -> Clojure, with a bunch of stuff in between

hans12:06:00

basic -> assembler -> forth -> c -> c++ -> smalltalk -> perl -> emacs lisp -> common lisp -> clojure here

seeg12:06:29

forth, that's cool simple_smile

misha12:06:44

Python | js -> Java | js -> Clojure(script)

hans12:06:55

seeg: spoiled me quite a bit, in fact.

sander12:06:53

logo -> vbscript -> js -> php -> java -> python -> js -> ruby -> (cycle clojure haskell js)

sander12:06:39

(c, c++ and matlab in between and http://vb.net during summers)

webstandardcss13:06:51

basic -> html -> css -> php -> js -> ruby -> clojure

kusowski13:06:23

Java -> Groovy -> JS -> Ruby -> Clojure

roberto13:06:55

PHP -> Java -> Perl -> Ruby -> Groovy -> Python -> JS -> Clojure

jfheon13:06:29

C64 (Basic, Assembler, Pascal) -> Atari ST (C) -> Blur (Modula-2, Cobol, , C++,Java, .NET, JavaScript, Python, Ruby) -> Scala -> Haskell -> Clojure

coldnew13:06:11

C -> java -> emacs lisp -> shell -> python -> newlisp -> scala -> Clojure

nvlass13:06:41

(lots of stuff) -> scheme -> clojure

marshall13:06:05

BASIC -> C -> C++ -> Scheme -> Python -> R ->Clojure

aghecht13:06:39

BASIC -> Pascal -> C -> C++ -> JavaScript -> C# -> Ruby -> Clojure

stephen13:06:03

BBC Basic->Assembler->C++->C->C++->Delphi->C#->Clojure

stephen13:06:23

Lots of people starting with Basic. I wonder if that's an age thing - everyone over x years old started with Basic.

sveri13:06:00

Hm, I was playing around with basic when I was like 10, but, not sure if that counts as "programming" ๐Ÿ˜„

hans13:06:10

stephen: it certainly is. when we were young, basic basically was the only language that we could use.

aghecht13:06:26

Most of the 8 bit microcomputers from the late 70s / early 80s ran Basic

hans13:06:45

stephen: i tried to get a jupiter ace which ran on forth, but never could afford it when i was 16... ๐Ÿ˜ž

stephen13:06:03

Nice. I wonder how different my life would have been if I had started on a Forth machine..

stephen13:06:10

Being much more low level it might have made me a much better programmer today, or I might have just become a bricklayer instead.

hans13:06:45

I tried to keep the love for high and low level alive since then. When my son turned old enough to want to start programming, all I had in his mother tongue was a Forth book so that is what he learned first. Like myself, he'll probably never write anything sizable in it, but I still think it is a good thing to know.

ballpark14:06:06

COBOL(mainframe stack)->Java->Python|Javascript->Clojure

curtosis15:06:57

Apple Basic -> Pascal -> C -> C++ -> Ada -> Java -> Lisp -> ObjC -> Python -> Erlang-> Ruby -> Smalltalk -> Clojure -> Scala -> Clojure

agile_geek15:06:24

@ballpark Yay! A fellow ex-mainframer ๐Ÿ‘

cmdrdats15:06:51

Logo -> GWBasic -> QBasic -> Clarion -> Pascal -> Assembly -> C/C++ -> ASP -> ActionScript -> PHP -> Javascript -> Java -> Clojure (with some forking all over the place, of course)

curtosis15:06:03

Iโ€™m a wannabe mainframer, does that count? ๐Ÿ˜‰ Itโ€™s not in my not-very-linear path, but I do (did?) know JCL and helped write a book on Linux-on-zโ€ฆ.

ballpark15:06:00

@agile_geek: ha! I'm happy to be beyond that stage. I realized there are other languages (BASIC, Assembly, fortran)that I used, but professionally, COBOL would be my first.

ballpark15:06:58

@curtosis: I've heard that mainframe programmers can get paid pretty well. I think it's the rule of getting paid for things other people don't want to do. simple_smile

fuzzyalej15:06:38

basic -> pascal -> c -> c++ -> java -> php -> ruby -> javascript -> clojure

curtosis15:06:21

my hourly rate is currently high enough to allow me to not be tempted by COBOL work. ๐Ÿ˜‰

curtosis15:06:29

but man, that is some seriously cool hardware.

agile_geek15:06:57

@ballpark: same here

agile_geek15:06:11

@curtosis: half the corporate systems out there in the wild still run COBOL somewhere under the covers. There are COBOL programs I wrote 25 years ago still running every month.

ballpark15:06:39

@curtosis: Not odd. You're right, cool hardware, and I'm sure there's a way to run some cool languages on them. We just need to nudge the banks and gov'ts to get off COBOL

curtosis15:06:25

yeah, I saw something recently that worldwide there are 100x more transactions every second passing thru COBOL than Google searches per second.

aengelberg21:06:40

Is there a way to hide the " joined" messages? They seem like unnecessary fluff, and especially on my phone because they don't collapse into one message.

gjnoonan21:06:02

@aengelberg: Unfortunately not ๐Ÿ˜ž

aengelberg21:06:17

That's unfortunate. I think in HipChat I have that option.

stephen21:06:59

I don't think Slack initially intended this to be for teams of 1,410.

gjnoonan21:06:44

@stephen: maybe all 1410 of us should tweet them and tell them what we need ๐Ÿ˜‰

gjnoonan21:06:59

They have to listen to the masses right?

stephen21:06:15

If there was a way for them to monetize it..

danielcompton22:06:24

@aengelberg: I just made a support request last night about this